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We are providing these transcripts as a way to assist you in understanding DaBen's instructions. The spoken word is different than when it is presented in writing, and these are not intended to take you into the light body spaces. We do not guarantee that these are perfect transcriptions of the journeys, nor are they intended to be. The journeys and talks given at the seminar will be posted as transcribed by our transcriber. Transcripts when complete will be put into PDF format several months after the seminar, and can be downloaded so you can read it on your computer or print it out.
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Program 17 LB972E_17T Duane: Talk
Program 18 LB972E_18J DaBen: Purity of Frequencies, Opening Potential of Becoming
Program 19 LB972E_19T Duane: Talk
Program 20 LB972E_20J DaBen: Thought Forms From Becoming Luminous Light
Program 21 LB972E_21T Duane: Talk
Program 22 LB972E_22J DaBen: Luminous Light, Vibration, Penetration and Expression of Being Space
Program 23 LB972E_23T Duane: Talk
Program 24 LB972E_24J DaBen: Refining Luminous Light Vibration, Penetration
Program 25 LB972E_25T Duane: Talk
Program 26 LB972E_26J DaBen: Connection, Group Energies, Expanding Deepening with Becoming Luminous Light
Program 27 LB972E_27T Duane: Talk
Program 28 LB972E_28J DaBen: Vast Consciousness, Lower to Higher Becoming Luminous Light
Program 29 LB972E_29T Duane: Talk
Program 30 LB972E_30J DaBen: Exploring Boundaries of More Possible Individuality, Becoming
Program 31 LB972E_31T Duane: Talk
Program 32 LB972E_32J DaBen: Becoming, Being Absorbed, No Limits
Program 17 LB972E_17T Duane Talk
Duane: Okay. We are going to look in more depth and detail on becoming luminous light, looking at some of the energies that it opens up in a very easy way.
So we are going to look at what we used way back in the awakening your light body, the frequencies, that pure energy, and how luminous light will open up our ability to experience that as well.
We are going to use the experience in this journey, and that process we are going to use quite a bit in the development of our skills with becoming and experiencing becoming.
So we have sort of a reference point, sort of a basis on which we can say, okay, as we get into things like thoughtforms and looking at thoughtforms, you are going to want to have a place that you can say, okay, this is pure light body energy, this is frequencies that I can open up, and sort of just a reference point for looking at some of the things we will look at, thoughtforms and so on.
As we look in this way – not in this next journey but in the one after – as we look at thoughtforms and patterns and that sort of thing, you are going to recognize that as you play in this way, you are going to be examining things that you have accepted, just so obvious that you accept them that that is the way they are. And with luminous light and becoming that, they become easier to see, those things that you have just always accepted because, well, that is just the way it is, there is no reason to question it.
But as you begin to look at the energies you realize, well, wait a minute. That is not my experience at all. So begin to notice this.
We are going to use these frequencies as sort of a base, a foundation to look at a purity of energy.
Okay. This using becoming luminous light in the frequencies is very easy, so I would like you to just notice the subtleties that are there. The experience itself is very easy.
Okay, get comfortable for a journey.
Program 18 LB972E_18J DaBen: Purity of Frequencies, Opening Potential of Becoming
DaBen: Welcome.
And as we explore now, as we look as these patterns and energies all about you, connecting with your guide, and using that awareness of these frequencies, these patterns, so that you find them even more clearly in the light body, as you move to the light body now.
With your guide’s assistance follow that transition from that pure energy at this level of the personality, vibrational energy body level, to the light body, with your guide finding a translation, so that you can recognize that energy, that pure energy contained in your experience as a part of your consciousness, as a part of consciousness that you are in and of.
Good. And now finding that experience, that being space, more deeply experienced now as you gain ability and consciousness, as you more thoroughly and deeply, as a part of you who are, recognize your consciousness, the consciousness about you, the consciousness you are of.
Good. And noticing that energy now.
As you look at that, bring in luminous light and the vibration of the being space, of various parts, volumes, areas, elements of the being space now.
And notice becoming this energy. And as you do in the light body, the cocoon boundary is far out as you can easily hold that entire volume in your awareness at the same time.
Good. And pick a frequency of vision to start, types of motion, a circular motion perhaps, that brings about more light in a particular pattern and way in which you can experience that energy, a basic energy.
And using luminous light now to assist you in experiencing it at a greater depth and opening, this circular motion lighting up as it goes around, and lighting it brighter the next round, and then many points doing the same thing.
Using luminous light now to notice the connections between those points, and then the interior to the light of those points, and where the light is coming from, expressed consciousness that you are a part of and of at this level of the light body.
Good. And notice that as you experience that, the purity of that energy, the indivisibility of that energy as a unit per se of consciousness at this level that you can experience now with luminous light, that you can becoming an experience of this energy a basic element, one of many, but a basic element of your experience, the way that your experience is able to organize these energies.
Good. And now let us add a frequency of precision, so that you have that vision, or a vision frequency, and let us add a precision frequency. Perhaps the two very rapidly moving lines, and then planes up and down next to each other generating a very precise movement, precise in matching, precise in space and experience.
Now notice a very different luminous light. As you use luminous light to open this up, notice a very different character to that energy of precision, opening your experience, adding it to vision.
Good. And as you play in this way, expand your light body cocoon out a bit further, and your consciousness expanding, including all of this in depth, so that you are stretching your ability to hold all of this in your experience at the same time, becoming this energy in order to do that, becoming this luminous light that is opening that, that is showing you this being, this consciousness.
Good. And notice the experience of that interaction now, the way in which that energy interacts, creating even more depth to becoming this luminous light, becoming being, becoming that full experience.
So let us try one more just to play, a brilliance frequency, where light multiplies, becomes brighter and brighter just by the activity, by almost you might say your observing that energy.
Brighter and brighter now, just by your observing, by any sense of observing or motion, adding to that precision and vision, carrying your becoming luminous light to a new level, to a new intensity.
Very good. Just notice as much as you can about the way in which this experience highlights your abilities to become luminous light, to be the being space and the vibration of becoming, and all of the connections, and being and of this energy of consciousness.
Good. And now just letting that go and enjoying the clarity, the qualities of light.
Good. And now just letting that go, coming back to the light body, the light body cocoon, thanking your guide, and then coming back to this time and space of the earth plane, through that point of light of the Fullonia, through the Renawre cocoon perhaps.
Good. And at your own pace and rhythm now coming back.
And with that, we bid you most pleasant journeys for now.
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Program 19 LB972E_19T Duane Talk
Duane: Okay. We in the past several seminars and at various times before then, we have played with, looked at, created opportunities to examine, argue with, our thought forms.
We are going to take another look at thought forms. They are an essential element of organizing the culture we are in, the way you interact with the energies on the earth plane. So we are going to look at them from this becoming luminous light.
We played a lot in the being as we explored the being space, so we are going to use that being space and then becoming luminous light to open it up even more to begin to experience those.
Now, at various times we have decided that thought forms are really useful and other times that they were really horrible, and at various times in my experience I have thought, gee, just get rid of thought forms. But that is not a very practical solution, and I think that having thought forms that contribute to your building consciousness is a very good thing.
As we explore, as you explore becoming luminous light and the being space consciousness, more and more you are going to recognize that the goal, and that is not really the right word at this level, but what you are drawn to, what you are being pulled toward, what you are striving to achieve is building consciousness and understanding the process of building consciousness.
And there are thought forms, if you can look at the thought forms, that for a while at this part of your journey, for a while thought forms will enable you to build consciousness.
So I would encourage you to just entertain the idea that if you can experience the thought form of assisting you in building consciousness, hey, that is really good. If on the other hand a thought form or thought forms is getting in the way, then that is not good.
Now, in the past, and maybe still you are trying to find ways at a personality level to get rid of a thought form or to get rid of a thought or the way things happen. If you want to choose that really hard way of struggle and you enjoy that, then fine. Just enjoy it though. Make sure you are enjoying it.
Because you have the skills now to get above that, so that thought forms in this life, unless they are a part of what you view consciousness to be about in that area, unless they match that, they will just disappear. They cannot form because that is not your experience of consciousness. So you have to work to bring them back. You have to be dedicated to a habit at a personality level.
Something we will look at a little bit in this seminar, but certainly on Tuesday and Wednesday in field of play, we will look at quite a bit from this level now, and DaBen keeps reminding me, us, that we are reaching a significant level with the being space. We have been building to it, and becoming adds to that, and the next one, evolving with peace, begins to look at that in even more depth.
But you are getting to a level now that your personality will never be able to reach. You still have a personality, you still want a personality. It is your interaction on the earth plane in culture. But the personality’s basic function and organization is finding patterns.
You may have been noticing with the being space, and even spaces before, is that you have gotten to a place now that there is not pattern, there is not a way. There is the energy in the flow that you are in, there is the experience that you are having, not personality. The personality really cannot come up to that.
At least right now for me, I just keep my personality as happy as I can keep it. It enjoys the feeling that I have, the focus of consciousness enjoys the feeling I have when I come back from these far out spaces, for lack of a better term, for this experience. And if it wants something and it seems like that would build my consciousness, I do my best to keep it happy. And it is working pretty well so far.
And it may change as we gain consciousness. So just notice that.
If at times you get to a lower level of personality that you somehow got convinced that you are your personality, just make a little note to self; this is not me.
So as you play in this way, and we will look more in the field of play seminar, but as you play in this way, what DaBen did in a variety of levels, one of the latter ones directing from above, we are capable of reaching levels of consciousness now that this personality is such a small part, but an integral part, of your making shifts, gaining consciousness at this level on the earth plane.
Now gaining consciousness is not just all up here. It has to translate back. And some gaining consciousness can be initiated from earth plane level, from personality level. So you are interested in gaining that consciousness.
Now something that our culture, our belief systems about spiritual growth, it has taken me a while to realize this. The last couple seminars it became clearer and clearer, and we will look at this even today in some journeys.
We have, at least it seems that the culture has, and we have picked that up, I certainly did, that to be really conscious and enlightened that life just works perfectly. If life just worked perfectly there would be no stimulus for growth. Consciousness is evolving.
Early in the metaphysical explorations way back when we had this cute little phrase of the universe gave you a little tap on the shoulder when you should be listening. And if you did not listen then it started to be slapping. And if you did not listen to that, then it was a two-by-four.
You have recognized that various things in your life, that they were okay, they were a little annoying, but after a while that annoying became intolerable.
So you have the stimulus, and you have that stimulus to grow. You can grow with joy or struggle. It is really at your choice.
Once you have started the spiritual growth path, and we have said this before, it is really the way reality, consciousness works, once you have started that path you cannot quit. You are either moving with it, gaining consciousness, or life is getting really hard.
So it is a balance of growing through joy or struggle, but you will be growing, and we need that stimulus. So not everything will always be comfortable all the time, and that as you play in that way, it can be, as we were experiencing in some of the journeys yesterday, it can truly become a dance.
It requires consciousness, and we will shift the definition just a little bit here, it requires you to be conscious, to be awake, to not be on automatic. You have to be paying some attention. You cannot just assume that life is going to carry on in this very pleasant way that you have created, because it will not, unless you are continuing to pay attention. Things change.
So as we look now at thought forms, we will begin to look in that way at does this thought form enable you at some level to gain consciousness. If it does, then you might rate it, okay, that is useful. And it might be useful for a week, a month, part of a lifetime, but it is probably not going to be useful forever. Certainly not multiple lifetimes.
So begin to look at, as you play in this way, begin to look at thought forms from do they add to my ability to build consciousness or are they getting in the way of.
And if you decide that they are getting in the way of, then do not try to fix them from the thought form level. Fix them from this is energy that I can open up. I can look inside this energy, and oh, this creates it. It may be that energy that you open up may become another thought form at some point, or maybe not, maybe it just stays as energy.
Something that DaBen said a long time ago that we sort of played with is that he organized the light body in such a way that you have to, in order to continue to get experience from it you have to really be able to experience it. It has to be something you can turn into an experience. Not something that you are going to get any value from by turning it into a set of belief systems or rituals.
And that is true in your life as well. If you are experiencing it, then it is true right then when you experienced it. That is your truth at that moment. But if you do not keep renewing that experience it is no longer true.
And for many of the thought forms that we have, we have to reexamine them. Some of them are so obvious, such a part of who we are, that we have never looked at them before. We never even noticed that that was a thought form. That is just the way reality is.
As you get to this level, more and more you are going to start noticing, oh, that is not right, that is not the way I experience it now. So begin to play with that back and forth.
Okay. Now, as we do that, and we will look at this in field of play and maybe in another journey in this seminar, as we do that, recognize that there are certain thought forms in our culture that are useful for you to know about, not necessarily to believe, but to know about because the culture is pretty good. It provides us, with a little bit of effort, food and shelter and interactions and opportunities to grow and all of that.
But there are many things in our culture that when you really look behind them and their experience are just totally insane. But it is a shared belief system. It is something that is functional. You have to be able to communicate.
DaBen has told us that we have personalities so that we can communicate in the earth plane, in our culture. So you want to do that. Communicating could be defined as a harmonious recreation of experience. And if you insist on telling everybody that your new experience is that they are insane, it is not going to work out very well. So just accept that that is the way, that you have these varieties of levels.
You are already very good at it, so just recognize that there is this level that you can experience the consciousness building. And you have a different personality you take on with different friends. You can be in a really bad mood and notice the person who is calling and shift into the personality that is appropriate for that person. You are good at it. Just recognize it. There is not one way to be, you are just expanding the ways of being in that energy.
Okay. Now, let us start with you picking a thought form that you have been getting this little tap on the shoulder that the world at personality level may not be the way you think it is, or that your consciousness as you look at this, you might be thinking, gee, I could hold that energy entirely differently.
Begin to explore it, find that balance. The only constraint you have is at the personality level staying visibly viable on the earth plane.
There is that old joke in the psychiatry area that I still find amusing, that the only difference between sane people and insane people is that sane people know what not to talk about.
So just begin to look at that. Just begin to explore. You have this whole breadth of ways of experiencing the energy. It is not the way you think it is.
For most of you now you do not even question no time. You made that transition, where no time is a perfectly viable, good way of experiencing the world, and sequential time is a perfectly good way to relate to others about how the world is organized or reality is organized.
If you can make that transition where we were all so deeply steeped in sequential time, cause and effect, if you can make that transition, these transitions at the skills you have now are easy, really easy. They just require your consciousness to notice them.
Okay. Let us do a journey to look at thought forms. For many of you the thought forms will disappear quickly. Pick a new one. Just keep moving. If they do not disappear or you like them, then say, oh, that is good, and move to the next one. Just keep a cycle going here.
Okay, get comfortable for a journey.
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Program 20 LB972E_20J DaBen: Thought Forms From Becoming Luminous Light
DaBen: Welcome.
As you explore now, connecting with your guide, and exploring your experience of this becoming luminous light at this level.
Good. And then moving to the light body just briefly, so that you have that familiar energy, abilities there, and spanning back to the upper personality where things flow, where if you have kept up on this consciousness and the flows on the earth plane life is good.
And begin to look at any areas that have been slightly annoying, insights that you realize, oh wow, it could be that way. And see if you can discover, uncover as it were, thought forms that are behind that annoyance, or upset even, or that are somehow masking that wow it could be this way, wow that might work. Begin to look there.
And thought forms at these levels are rarely simple. They can be, but there is usually more than one. They usually come one after another in some sort of sequence. Because of this I have to do this, and because I had to do that I have to do this, and so on.
And if your mind gets stuck in any of those loops, you are very familiar with those thought forms whether you called them out or not.
Now, using this becoming luminous light to open up those thought forms, to open up this energy, to begin to notice these thought forms at the personality level, how that energy from the light body translates into a whole variety of energies, possibilities, potentials, that luminous light and being open up, so that those thought forms begin to be examined from luminous light.
Many thought forms will disappear because they have no basis in the energy there. Some will persist a bit longer. Some will persist but be modified, because at the level of consciousness that you are able to bring they have some truth in your experience, at least for now.
But those thought forms will evolve as well. They will be able to contain — that is not quite the right word, they will be able to reflect and grow with the light, they will be able to hold that light of this luminous light, of your becoming luminous light. They will add to your consciousness.
Now continue to add to your consciousness until they are fully absorbed in that energy, until they fade, but an element in your process of growth.
So moving from thought form to thought form, maybe to start really mentally notice the entanglements, and mentally notice the thought forms, and then as you become more and more that luminous light they will just appear, wanting to be a part of that light.
And if they are able to light up, to hold, to be a part of that light, enjoy this whole energy building around you now.
And if they are not able to hold that energy, to contain the vibration, they will just disappear. Let them go lightly, for they served their purpose. They gave you connections, they gave you insights.
Keep that sequence going now, recognizing a thought form and luminous light, your experiencing this energy of being, becoming this luminous light, building consciousness. Small, little elements of coherence forming out of those dissolving thought forms, or thought forms that can vibrate to a higher level, and the energy that those dissolving thought forms leave, available energy to explore, to become luminous light.
Asking your guide now to assist you in setting a rhythm for noticing a thought form and becoming luminous light and making that evaluation in just this instant as to whether this thought form has the potential to build consciousness for you or not.
Good. Now, just letting that go, thanking your guide, and at your own pace and rhythm now, letting go of the light body level, coming back to the time and space of the earth plane.
And with that, we bid you most pleasant journeys for now.
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Program 21 LB972E_21T Duane: Talk
Duane: Okay. As we explore these energies, you, your sense of who you are will change. It will become more conscious. And there may be a part of your personality that we were just talking about, that we explored even more in the break, there may be a part of your personality who would really like it to stay the same.
The nature of our minds is to find pattern, and once a pattern is found there is sort of an attachment to that pattern. Oh great, I figured that out, I will move to the next. Well, figuring things out at that level never stays. It is dynamic. The level you are getting at at these higher spaces is dynamic constantly.
Part of the skill you have to stay with that energy here is that you can keep moving, that you can stay with that dynamic energy. Your personality is never designed to do that.
The way we use our personality in our culture, where we are not trying to survive and use all of our instincts to not be eaten, is that we want to find a pattern that works and then stop, this is good.
Well, it will only be good for a little while. So you embrace the growth and you embrace this being space and becoming light and the other things that you have learned through the light body or through other disciplines that you have explored, and it will all come down to it is dynamic.
You join the flow and you stay in the flow. Synchronicity starts to happen, wonderful things start to happen. It does not require a huge amount of effort, but it requires an awareness of consciousness, being conscious that things are changing.
If you ignore the little taps on your shoulder, they will get painful.
If you look at it, it is sort of silly that our personalities, our minds can think, oh, things can be static. I can get to this level, life is good, it is defined, I understand it, this is great.
When we get hungry all the time, it is dynamic. If you do not feed yourself, you do not stay around very long. So the very nature of our reality is dynamic. It requires replenishing that energy, including staying with the flow that you are able to sense in a greater and greater degree now.
You may not like it, but eventually you will either accept it and enjoy it and embrace it, or you will leave. That is just the nature of it.
Now, you can have all sorts of thought forms around it, and we are looking at some of the thought forms now through becoming luminous light because you have those skills to do that now, to get to that place.
DaBen has stated and will continue to try to impress upon you that the places you are able to reach now are significant. They are profound energies. If you can open to that, get in that flow, organize things around these experiences, that you will reach a level of dynamic ecstasy. But that dynamic ecstasy will be as long as you stay in the flow. If you decide not to pay attention, well, then you will have had a pleasant memory. It is in the flow, it is being there, and this is a great space to do that.
Okay. As we look at that area, as we play in that way, a part of you may think that this is a lot of effort, it requires a constant efforting.
I think and I imagine most of you are more and more in touch with synchronicity; that things just happen in the right place, at the right time, in the right way. When you are paying attention you can say, wow, that just worked. Well, it worked as you were in the flow.
That synchronicity is not effort. It is just paying attention. It is using your consciousness. It is not acquiring this consciousness and then pretending that it is not fair to use it or to have it, to go back to some lower consciousness level that the personality is attached to in some way. So it is not that efforting.
Building consciousness can be close to effortless, but it cannot be oblivious. You have to pay attention.
Okay. So we are going to look in this next journey at playing a bit more with that potential, of looking at becoming luminous light and opening this space even more, to make it easier to be in this flow, so that it is possible to experience and on a more continuous basis.
And to recognize that sometimes, that we have been playing with for a long time but will become even easier with luminous light, is to recognizing levels. Last seminar the skill that people built, and it is available to you if you are new to this seminar, is spanning the various levels. That will become easier and easier with luminous light, becoming luminous light.
Just play, notice that. Because the way the energy works at the levels is different. If you choose to play at this level, you cannot use light body rules. If you choose to play here, personality rules are not going to work. So just recognize the way the energy is and the way it works.
And “rules” is not really quite the right word, but it is the way the energy works, it is the pattern.
It would be great if we could reduce it to rules. Personality can have rules, cultures can have rules. But up here it is not. It is dynamic. It is experiencing. It is the way you experience it in that base of no time or in that millisecond, and the next millisecond might be a different experience, or no time might shift and you just recognize now it is different. So just play with that.
Okay. I think that is all we need for a journey, so get comfortable for a journey.
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Program 22 LB972E_22J DaBen: Luminous Light, Vibration, Penetration and Expression of Being Space
DaBen: Welcome.
As you explore in this way, recognize that with your skill, with where you are at with your ability, and your ability to sense these energies and to be in these spaces, that building consciousness can be just a natural part of being.
That it flows out of your being, out of your being in the being space, and becoming luminous light then becomes a way to notice more, to open that energy, to be in that potential of the being space, to let that vibration opening and bringing light, the capability of light from that potential in this becoming, and that light beginning to penetrate into, with that vibration, into being.
And from that, then, consciousness is building, is built, comes about. Often comes about by just your simple observation; noticing, experiencing, feeling, sensing, in that instant of recognition, consciousness.
And from that, then, seeking and finding an expression. Whether that expression be just a shift in the way the energy moves in that particular area, or an opening or an insight or an additional vibration or more light; an expression.
Good. Becoming luminous light now from this being space, noticing those openings and patterns, observing.
Good. And now, let us look at this energy in just a little more depth. So as you look, as we perhaps give you some description of what you might be seeing, but just look. You are seeing what you are seeing, you are experiencing, you are feeling what is there for you. And if what we say, what we call out, stimulates you to look at what you are experiencing in a deeper way, good. If not, ignore. Go deeper into that experience.
So notice now this vibration of becoming luminous light, the vibration that is naturally there as a part of that potential in the being space, and the fineness of that vibration. As though there are strands in that energy, or energy that organizes into strands and waves and patterns, and each pattern that you notice opens through that ability to observe it, opens to another layer of light, level of light.
And to the degree that you can be conscious of patterns there it opens even further, and again, and the volume, holding that energy, the volume that you are noticing it is in becomes larger.
And as you let it be larger, then the ability that you have to observe is enhanced, so that it becomes larger still and begins to encompass more and more of your experience.
Becoming this being, becoming luminous light in this being space, so that it is opening your ability to experience, to be, to observe throughout the entire space, penetrating into that now.
As you experience this light as a part of this being space, however complete that is, notice that you have the opportunity to expand that into detail in any area of this energy at the level of energy that you choose.
And that you might begin to play with balancing to make more beautiful, to balance that energy, your experience, to extend into, quote, “new” areas, to fill in other areas, to further enhance your, quote, “favorite” areas, favorite experiences, natures of energy.
Now, just letting that go, just noticing the energy in the room, the energy in the room about you, and use the space you are in to let space and time change, so that no matter when or where you are in these spaces.
The space about you is opened by like energy, other individuals doing this journey or similar journeys or spaces like this, whether they be from playing at the level of the light body or at other disciplines and levels.
Recognize that you can look at space now as like energies. And notice the space.
Good. And now, just letting that go, thanking your guide, and smoothly and easily coming back to the light body, and then to the time and space of the earth plane, a smooth but evenly flowing transition back to the earth plane, to your presence there, your expression at that level of these energies of your consciousness.
Good. At your own pace and rhythm now, smoothly and easily, and with that, we bid you most pleasant journeys for now.
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Program 23 LB972E_23T Duane: Talk
Duane: Okay. As you notice that energy, that vibration, this opening, to the degree that you can, let that sense, that experience, permeate all of your experience at any level that you can be aware of as a focus of consciousness.
We will play more with thought forms, a lot more in field of play seminar. And we will look at the energy in much more depth of becoming luminous light, so that you have substance to the being space. So we will look at that in this way.
In this next journey we are going to refine on that a bit. And as we do that, refine our ability to experience this energy, play some with that, so sense this energy and so on, I would like you to begin to look at or ponder a question as to what perspective is predominate when you look at these energies.
Is it the perspective of this is useful to me in organizing my earth plane life? Does it assist me in making that better in some direct noticeable way? What is your focus? What enables you to really be drawn and to act on following this energy, playing with this energy? Is it the experience of the space that you reach? Is it a more practical earth plane? A whole variety of possible perspectives on what is there.
And that perspective will change with you over time. Maybe even in the next moment it will change. Just notice a range of possible perspectives there.
I watch your energies, I can see your energies in these spaces, but every once in a while someone will share something with me or I will hear that someone talked about this, and it is as though — and I say this jokingly but I want to in this evening session really understand it — it is as though you have these high spaces, you get into the high spaces, I watch you there, but you do not tell your personality about it. You do not integrate it. It is like you are still measuring whether this was successful by whether you could fit a concept at a personality level. Or gee, that was really nice, but I thought it was going to be this. Or if it were really good it would have been something else.
And maybe you can help me find a new word. Because we are getting to a level here where integrate and a lot of words we use are coming from the wrong perspective. Integrate implies that what is important is down here. Well, no. You know that is not important. I know you know that. You have been convinced of that. You have been in those spaces.
So it is not really integrate to down here, it is how to take what is down here and incorporate it up here, so that what is down here at this level is reflective of what is up here, so that it is in synch, it makes sense. It is not going to be energy sense because here is different. It is a whole other level.
We cannot any longer really afford to measure whether or not we are being successful up here by what our pictures are down here, because what is down here is not as expansive as what is up here. It just does not work. And it is going to work more and more poorly as you gain skill up here.
Okay. So let us look at that higher energy in a refined way now, really refine that energy, and then we will use that this afternoon.
Okay, get comfortable for a journey.
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Program 24 LB972E_24J DaBen Refining Luminous Light Vibration, Penetration
DaBen: Welcome.
You are doing very well playing with this energy.
Good. And connecting with your guide now. You have a nice flow with this energy. And notice more and more details of that connection with your guide, whatever draws your attention. Notice more detail, more of the consciousness, more of the energy behind it.
Does energy flow smoothly? Does it move in sort of stages? Is it more quantum-like? Does it just appear? How many other elements are easily connected with it? How closely can you open your perspective and find connected elements?
That connection with your guide, your guide has a great deal of skill to reach into, to communicate with you at that level. And you have opened a great deal to make that possible, and you have reached up to that energy. What is the nature of that? How fluid and flexible can that be?
Refining that energy now.
Good. And now moving to the light body and the light body cocoon, and just letting that cocoon boundary dissolve so that the light body energy is constantly flowing out at an even rhythm, even pace, for you are in an energy that for your purposes is infinite, consciousness here ever flowing, ever expressing.
And now, refining your experience of any of the frequencies. Pick your favorite, perhaps a brilliance frequency, increasing light just by simple but in many ways intricate movements. Light is generated, or more appropriately light is revealed. That this opens your ability to sense, and that that flows out as well. And yet having opened it that way, it is flowing out throughout the entire volume.
Notice that that expression of your ability to be conscious, to penetrate that energy with luminous light, to penetrate your ability to perceive, has opened that energy, has given you an avenue of experience, consciousness an expression.
And noticing in detail this energy of your experience now, having done that with your connection with your guide and having a beginning exploration with the brilliance frequency and this light moving out.
And doing the same now for your experience of the light body in this particular moment, and perhaps enhance your ability by being in no time, so that your experience is of a very large energy, very compact.
And with in-depth looking now as you learned with the being space, with in-depth looking you can notice the details. You can begin to tease out an instant in time out of this no time, an instant of experience, of energy, and look at that in detail.
Where the value here is not the substance of that energy per se, or how it might relate to anything else, but in your ability to notice it in the entirety of energy, of being, of your being, of your experiencing being consciousness, opening it with luminous light.
Refining that energy even more now in more detail, refining your ability to experience that detail, to discover that detail, just as a play.
And notice the enjoyment of being aware of consciousness at this depth and level; enjoyment of appreciation, enjoyment of the awe of experiencing at this level and depth, enjoyment of the flow and clarity and openness.
Good. And now just letting that go, coming back to the light body with the cocoon now a comfortable distance out, so that you can find the cocoon volume easily within your awareness.
Now, thanking your guide, noticing the detail of that connection as you let it go.
Good. And with that now, letting yourself come back slowly and smoothly to the time and space of the earth plane, at your own pace and rhythm.
Good. Coming back, and with that, we bid you most pleasant journeys for now.
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Program 25 LB972E_25T Duane: Talk
Duane: Okay. Lots of energy out there now. That is good.
Okay. We are going to play with another aspect that is becoming even higher in our awareness as we look at these flows and at the energies.
And that is as you get into this level, into these skills, groups are going to be more and more a part of the energy that you experience. So as you play at that energy, as you look at that, you are going to notice that the groups, even just temporary associations that you are into, as you notice the groups that you are in, as you notice the levels that you are in, let the associations of groups form and dissolve.
They are going to contribute and be a part of what you experience whether or not you really notice them. Noticing them allows you to open to that experience, to play with that energy in a larger way.
So we are going to in this next journey look at that as an exercise, as a way of enhancing your experience, recognizing its contribution or its influence. And if you choose not to notice that energy, then it will still be there to some degree but it will not be affecting your consciousness per se.
We are going to do this with groups, and then possibly if we have time, a variety of other energies that influence as well, that your being conscious at these levels will make available to you.
Okay. I think that is all we need for this journey.
Just notice we have the group that is physically here, we have the group that will be joining us in these journeys a bit later, we have all the people taking the seminar, taking it remotely, we have the groups that you have been associated with here in the light body.
DaBen has defined space, and we will refine that in future seminars, but he has defined space as like energies, that not physical three dimensional space, but space as like energies. And we will explore the juxtaposition of the two a little more at a later time.
But just notice that, the contribution that that has to make. And we will probably expand out to groups that have similar sorts of, or are able to sense similar sorts of energies, so that you have that flow.
Okay. Get comfortable for a journey.
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Program 26 LB972E_26J DaBen: Connection, Group Energies, Expanding Deepening with Becoming Luminous Light
DaBen: Welcome.
Good. And looking at that energy now, being in that flow, being able to with your slight shift in awareness reach these higher levels, adjust to these higher energies.
And connecting with your guide now, and notice the refinement in that connection and play with that even more, just in passing.
And then moving to the light body, making sure you have a good harmony, a good foundation in the vibrational energy bodies, the Renawre cocoon.
Good. And notice how easily that being space just becomes a part of your experience, and your experience expands, holding that space.
And becoming luminous light now, that vibration, the vibration penetrating this being space experience, and finding expressions.
Good. And using this expression now of these energies, of this luminous light, of this becoming that light as it expresses at this higher level. And notice the energy that it is expressing into, and that energy is a whole collection, a series of connections and interconnections.
And recognize that at this level these are not random energies. They are energies that can harmonize and synchronize and are a part of this level of consciousness, this degree of light.
And that given that light and this consciousness, you have opportunities to connect with in a more conscious way, to even in passing notice the degree and quality of energy, perhaps borrowing an element of that energy, of that consciousness, incorporating it into your being.
For it is these energies, these connections, that makes it possible to expand, to open consciousness here. It is what makes it possible for you as a unique consciousness playing at this level to make a contribution with your unique consciousness.
Good. And play with these groups, the collective energy of individuals in these groups, these groups that you are a part of, and other groups that share this space, as it were, like energies, easily moving in and out of one or more or many groups with your awareness.
Good. Now, let us pick the energies, play with them now, as you have solidified your experience in this way, finding the energy. By “finding” we mean being in this space unique in your energy, becoming luminous light, focusing on your experience of the entirety of being, of consciousness, in your way with your senses and skills, with your consciousness in its commonality and its uniqueness.
And do that for a bit now, and just notice the like energies forming a space about you, attracted, noticing, sharing consciousness that has a commonality, a similarity, a likeness.
Good. And noticing this energy and then just letting it go. Just simply by expanding or shifting your awareness and focus, the consciousness that you are actively engaged in in that moment, shifts the ability you have to find the groups that are here, to open groups, collections of like energies, associations at an energy level.
Good. And just letting that go now, coming back to the light body cocoon, helping to focus your awareness, your focus of consciousness.
Very good. Notice the, for lack of a better term, the residual, the awareness, the consciousness that you retain from having played in this way, the sense of belonging and association, connection to these larger energies, a shifting from a focus on just your consciousness to expanding to focus on consciousness of others in this larger consciousness, another level of connection.
Good. And now thanking your guide, coming back to the light body cocoon, and then smoothly and easily, good, smoothly and easily coming back to the time and space of the earth plane now, noticing your energies and the energies about you, letting that be a part of your becoming luminous light, of that experience of that ability.
At your own pace and rhythm now coming back, and with that, we bid you most pleasant journeys for now.
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Program 27 LB972E_27T Duane: Talk
Duane: We are going to look next at vast consciousnesses and our connections there, and bring our awareness of that to a new level with becoming luminous light.
Now, as we do that, you may and probably will have opportunities to just let your being in the energies carry you and take you to a flow. That is what I would like you to do.
If you get to those spaces that you are in another flow in connections, playing with that energy, experiencing that, and DaBen gives you an instruction to do something else, just ignore that instruction and stay with that flow, stay with that breadth of connection, that depth of experience.
As we as a group, as we play with these energies in no time and so on, that you have an opportunity in that opening space of the group doing it, of everyone doing it, to really use your unique energy to move out on that. So do that, explore in that way.
Okay, get comfortable for a journey.
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Program 28 LB972E_28J DaBen: Vast Consciousness, Lower to Higher Becoming Luminous Light
DaBen: Welcome.
And just begin now with vast consciousnesses that are near and dear to your presence on the earth plane, all of the consciousnesses, trillions of cells to start, and many trillions of lifeforms that make up the machinery, as it were, of those cells.
Each conscious in their own way, each connected, each participating to create this, inadequate term here, but this community that allows you, your focus of consciousness, to have a physical presence, to have an organization of consciousness, to collect that consciousness in your physical being, to contribute consciousness at the levels of your mind and emotions, to contribute at your ability to tune into these higher spaces.
So beginning there, just notice those vast consciousnesses as consciousness, being, the level that they are communicating on. Sometimes you notice them and can experience that, other times not.
Just recognize that in this immense tapestry, weaving together of energies, that vast consciousnesses is a beginning of your presence, an organization by the consciousness of the earth itself and all the things that make it possible to bring together all of the chemistry that allows you to have the energy sources that make this vast consciousnesses of your being viable.
An environment that this consciousness, these vast consciousnesses, and all the way back to the basic elements organized by this solar energy, brought together by all the physics, all of the ways in which this consciousness is woven and expressed.
So that as you experience this energy in this way, as you explore, recognize the immensity of the energy of which you are a part.
And then reaching higher where we have been focusing most of our awareness and have been focusing on developing consciousness, for that is evolving in the form that you are right now on the earth plane. That is a way for these forms to evolve, to create new levels of consciousness based on large numbers of consciousnesses like yours meeting other groups, other vast groups of consciousnesses that can be on, for lack of a better term, these wavelengths.
Now, as much as you can, include in your being space, in your consciousness of the being space, this whole range of energies, going as close back to matter as you can, the consciousness, the order that is there, to the highest organization of these high energies as you have been able to experience.
Very good. Now, with this space use that becoming luminous light, this being space, this immense scale, range of scale, to expand, to move out into even higher energies.
Use all of that energy to reach another level, holding this level now, holding this consciousness, opening, focusing your awareness. With that focus bring that consciousness, becoming luminous light, letting all of this consciousness fully absorb you, and you absorb its energy, this being, this being space, the openness of becoming luminous light.
Expanding out to this next level, breaking through to another level, another organization of energy, using the energy that you have explored with groups to assist you in holding your experience more steady, using the breadth of experience, unique experiences of this group and other like groups to expand out into yet another higher level.
And noticing that the energy here is even finer, the frequencies and patterns are extremely precise, and constantly forming and dissolving, filling the space, as it were, of the being space. That luminous light and becoming enables you to open and experience this underlying energy, this fineness. And by your consciousness and by your observing this energy you create an even greater awareness of the being space, a greater opening.
Good. Becoming luminous light and this energy now.
Good. Becoming luminous light, this space and even beyond, this substance of the being space, of your experience of consciousness and this next level, this underlying and higher energy.
Good. And just enjoying that space now, and coming back to the light body, the light body cocoon, and notice how much of that energy you can translate back.
Good. Now, just letting that go, enjoying the residual, with your guide’s assistance beginning to make that energy more and more a part of your experience at the light body level, and preparing the energies to make it a part of your infusing that energy at lower levels, at the vibrational energy bodies and Renawre cocoon.
Good. Now, thanking your guide, noticing the light body cocoon about you, and then smoothly and easily coming back to the time and space of the earth plane, at your own pace and rhythm, recognizing that you have reached a new level of consciousness, ability to be conscious, just a beginning exploration.
Good. Coming back, and with that, we bid you most pleasant journeys for now.
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Program 29 LB972E_29T Duane: Talk
Duane: You are doing very well with that energy, holding that energy, using your consciousness to develop it even more.
We are going to look at a couple other aspects of this becoming luminous light, or aspects that contribute to that process, so that you can have an even greater breadth of understanding being in that space.
A number of questions at the break have centered around consciousness and the culture and is the culture becoming more conscious, that sort of question.
Not that you are going to find an answer to that question, but truthfully looking at that essence of that question from these higher levels is well worthwhile, because it begins to open for you a whole range of possibilities.
In looking at those types of questions, we often limit ourselves to a set of belief systems that we have acquired or that the culture has given us or whatever. You are definitely not going to find the answer at that level. You can begin to gain a lot more experience and insight on those sorts of questions from the higher levels, from levels like the ones we are exploring.
Now, it requires you to translate some of that back, and it requires you to look at, and really for yourself answer a question that you are not going to have empirical evidence for per se, but you have experience now, I think, to answer that question to your satisfaction.
And that basic question becomes, is the universe friendly? Now I do not mean is it friendly to this particular earth life that you are in, but it probably is friendly to that too.
And I would put a very significant caveat there, one that we have talked about often and one that has been a serious part of your spiritual growth. I think the universe is friendly to you in this lifetime as long as you listen. When you drop out of the flow and you stop listening, well, you are not on the evolution path, you are not on that flow, nothing is friendly.
So just look there. I think that will become a basic thing.
In reading some, and I do not even remember where I read it, but our culture is so enamored with science, and that is an interesting way of experiencing, and more and more science, since we believe in it, is agreeing with metaphysics, I think, hey, this is cool. And having been trained as a scientist, okay, this is even nicer.
One of the quotes that I read is that Einstein, who theoretically has some intelligence, thought that the number one question was, is the universe friendly?
So as you look at these questions that you have, see if you can come back to that. Do not avoid answering or looking at them or being seriously considering them, because there is a lot of consciousness to be gained, a lot of bringing that higher energy down into your personality, into your logic, into the logical mind sort of approach, gaining new perspectives, and so on. It is very worthwhile to do that.
But you have to recognize that if you gain a perspective it will probably be short lived, and that there is not going to be an answer that is really satisfying.
One of the things that I hope you are becoming convinced of now as you grow, as we get into these energies, is that there is not some magical place where all questions are answered. There is not some consciousness that you reach that is enlightenment and nirvana forever. You have been to a whole series of nirvanas in this energy, and what it has gained you is an insight into the next one, and strong encouragement to keep going.
So just recognize that that is the nature. That what your mind, personality, left brain wants, it does not happen at that level. It does not even happen at its level, but it can always hope.
So as you play in this way, as you look at this energy, just recognize its nature.
Okay. Now, I have taken this little bit of detour from the higher energies because what we are going to look at in the next journey will be how you bring some of that energy back to your individuality. And on the earth plane you have expressed as an individual.
Now that is a curious definition, because you have trillions of selves that I think if they chose to look at it that way, they are individual. In fact they form a great community, trillions of them.
So where you draw that boundary is really important. Right now we are going to draw that boundary at this physical being that generates this mind that, in your case your mind, that can connect, that can create this conscious and can expand into other consciousnesses. But recognize that you could draw the boundary many places.
Something that I have probably said before that we may look at as we tell our stories, as we as a personality tell the stories of our lifetime, it can be a comedy or a tragedy depending on where you end the story.
So we will play at individuality. Not how it comes about, although we have looked at that source and we have played with that, but just how do you begin to absorb an individuality, this energy. How do you bring the individual up to this energy?
And we are going to use this to begin to look at sort of the next stage of becoming luminous light. DaBen has called that absorbing, and he means it in both directions. You become absorbed in the experience of becoming luminous light, and the experience of becoming luminous light so absorbs your ability to be an individual that soon it is connected. It is still at levels, but it is connected in a way that we have not achieved yet.
Okay, get comfortable for a journey.
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Program 30 LB972E_30J DaBen: Exploring Boundaries of More Possible Individuality, Becoming
DaBen: Welcome.
It is a pleasure to play with you in this way, to watch your energy set on its own and rise up to these energies, to these levels.
Good. Connecting with your guide now, and recognizing the energy about you, that space, the like attracting like, like energy being attracted to your energy.
Good. And with that, now, discovering your individuality, and with your guide’s assistance look at how you define that.
And it is not as simple as you might think, for even you as an individual on the earth plane, you have experienced aspect selves that you are intimately connected with at an energy level that are your consciousness but expressed as a separate physical body, and it is very hard to draw a distinct boundary because you are not isolated. You are an expression into a being, an expression of a greater consciousness.
So let that greater consciousness begin to show you now the parts of your beingness that are capable of generating new consciousness, of evolving, and how that evolving happens with all of the connections, with all of the involvements, with being immersed in this greater consciousness, this being space, and how you have just played with opening with luminous light, becoming that being, becoming luminous light.
So begin to look at your individuality as a way, as an expression, of building consciousness, and whatever level that might happen on, from a new thought, to a creative adventure, to an invention that builds on other inventions and is available to be built upon, just as your individuality is an expression built upon other consciousness, contained with consciousness.
Good. And what does it mean now to you at whatever level you choose to have as your perspective, what does it mean now to be an individual? That finer and finer individuation of these energies happens all the time. Maybe it even happens in reverse where individuals gain consciousness combined with other consciousnesses and create larger consciousnesses.
Good. And recognizing that you are drawn to becoming luminous light in looking at this process, and that to learn more, to grasp more, to experience more, of consciousness, of the being space, as individual and groups of individuals and collections and levels and layers of light and energy, you are drawn to becoming this energy and opening it with luminous light, striving to gain more consciousness in this process. Just drawn because it is of interest to you.
Good. And now, however you have reached your definition, your boundaries to you as an individual, as a focus of consciousness, just take that now and notice the energy that this being space opens up, all the ways that that energy is opened, how it is that this consciousness is infused at all of these levels. So that you have a sense of you as a series of levels of being an individual in this being space.
Good.
Good. And now just letting that go, thanking your guide, knowing that your being as an individual changes with your perspective. That you have a whole range of energies that you can use to look at and be a base for your perspective on the larger energy, being, consciousness, and that becoming luminous light opens this area up.
Good. And now, letting yourself come back smoothly and easily to the time and space of the earth plane.
And with that, we bid you most pleasant journeys for now.
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Program 31 LB972E_31T Duane: Talk
Duane: You are doing very well with these energies. So let us go another level, another layer in this becoming luminous light, another sort of stage of your experience.
We are going to vary a little bit from two journeys ago in the way we approach that, or DaBen approaches that. We are going to rely on you to be flexible in your definition where you draw the energy boundaries of you as an individual.
Draw them to take advantage of building consciousness. Whatever takes you further out, whatever perspective on you as an individual takes you further out into those energies, makes you open to more consciousness, choose that definition, that boundary.
And be flexible with it. It will probably change as we do the journey, so just take the fluidity, the flow of the space.
And be inventive and enjoy this energy.
Okay, get comfortable for a journey.
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Program 32 LB972E_32J DaBen: Becoming, Being Absorbed, No Limits
DaBen: Welcome.
As you find this being space, connecting with your guide and moving to the light body, and just following that energy to the part of the light body that we have identified as the higher light body, so that you have a clearer set of energies, slight change in the way the energies interact, so that you have the opportunity to be as fluid and flexible in your observations, in your experience, in your creating the opportunities for experience.
So with your guide now, holding that space, being, being conscious, consciousness, all of that consciousness.
And notice the fine vibrations with luminous light now, those vibrations penetrating into the very experience of consciousness, the very substance of your experience.
Good. And now, with that series of energies, opening that space, beginning to absorb that energy into your experience, where “your” is a flexible definition. You as an individual, your focus of consciousness, your beingness, begin to absorb this energy at the very foundation of that vibration.
That vibration of this energy, this becoming luminous light, finding an expression in this area, individuality, to the degree that this area, however you define it, is an expression and an opportunity by being absorbed in that expression to build consciousness.
To be so totally and completely absorbed in, absorbed by, to absorb this energy, that the opportunity for consciousness to come out of that becomes more and more enhanced for you at whatever level of individuality you are playing with, have this opportunity to be more conscious, to invent, as it were, by absorbing and expressing this energy to invent consciousness of your unique nature.
So from your unique nature as an individual, however you define it, absorbing this energy begins to reorganize, to reabsorb that energy, to open.
And just recognize that this process moves back and forth from an expression, to an absorption, to an expression, to the vibration, to being, to becoming luminous light, to noticing luminous light opening this energy, all happening in the space of no time or as required in sequence.
Choosing to just create that space for conscious, or the process of creating the space may be the consciousness itself.
Good. Now, with your guide’s assistance begin to use that energy of absorbing and being absorbed and the dynamic nature of that process, continued nature, to make it easier and easier to find luminous light, openings, and vibrations.
Good. And just letting that go now. Thanking your guide, letting this go, coming back to the light body, absorbed in this energy, becoming luminous light, being consciousness.
And finding an individual to come back into lower levels now, back to the time and space of the earth plane, smoothly and easily, with all of this experience, this energy, a part of your ability to be conscious now.
Good. Coming back at your own pace and rhythm, and with that, we bid you most pleasant journeys for now.