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Program 19 LB973E_19T Duane: Talk
Program 20 LB973E_20J DaBen: Layers of light beings assisting in exploring earth plane energy layers
Program 21 LB973E_21T Duane: Talk
Program 22 LB973E_22J DaBen: Experiencing levels of unique individuality in earth plane
Program 23 LB973E_23T Duane: Talk
Program 24 LB973E_24J DaBen: Exploring at energy new expressions of your unique energy on the earth plane
Program 25 LB973E_25T Duane: Talk
Program 26 LB973E_26J DaBen: Creating an experience of the flow to flexibility of being space
Program 27 LB973E_27T Duane: Talk
Program 28 LB973E_28J DaBen: Spaces to experience inherent quality of evolving in being space
Program 29 LB973E_29T Duane: Talk
Program 30 LB973E_30J DaBen: Spaces to experience evolving space, second short journey
Program 31 LB973E_31T Duane: Talk
Program 32 LB973E_32J DaBen: First bringing elements of dynamic evolving with peace together in experience
Program 33 LB973E_33T Duane: Talk
Program 34 LB973E_34J DaBen: Learning focus at this level of consciousness, evolving with peace
Program 19 LB973E_19T Duane: Talk
Duane: All right. You are doing very well with the energies, and so we are going to see if we can move even more deeply into some of these spaces, get an even greater sense earlier here so that we have lots of space to play in as we continue.
A question, how many of you found as we have done the layers of light and the beings associated twice now, how many of you found it easy to make that connection each time?
And we will start looking at more of what we do today, and I think they will be very instrumental in showing us earth plane energy, and probably other energies as well, certainly expanding consciousness for us.
And so in this next journey we are going to ask them to assist us in looking at the energies that we can or are in on the earth plane but do not really notice because it is so much a part of our consciousness here, to begin to sort of separate those out and to use the layers of light as distinct points in which to notice that consciousness.
In previous seminars we have looked a lot at shifting consciousness, shifting the way we view our consciousness, moving it from the individuality we have on the earth plane and the association or identification with our human form to directing from above, or from even higher, so that we are watching that flow.
We are going to see if we can to some degree get above that, and then use the layers of light beings to help us look at all the types of consciousness that is involved in our presence on the earth plane. Not just in a physical form, we will get to physical form, but maybe not too much in this next journey, but in the way in which you can organize your mind to have thoughts or to bring thoughts in.
Not to spend a lot of time on that thought process or thought forms, but just how is it that you become conscious of them. What is the consciousness that you use to notice them. And then to look at an even more basic energy is the emotional flow. How is it that we notice that emotional flow, what is our connection to that. We will use the layers of light beings to help us look at that.
Now, we are looking at that from an energy level, from a consciousness level. So do not get enamored with a particular thought form or the thought form that was there when you started looking. Just let it move to the next one and so on.
You are looking at the energy, you are seeing the nature of that energy; how fast is it moving, how dense is it, can you move into it easily, does it begin to separate into individual layers or movement within itself.
Begin to just identify it, so that if you were to come into an energy you would say, oh, okay, these are the characteristics, that must place me here in my consciousness on the earth plane, so that you begin to enhance that sense.
Now for some of you that is going to seem quite difficult, but you have done it many time before. It is just that you probably have not paid more attention to the energy than to the substance, to the thought form or to the emotion or to something else.
We are looking at the energy behind it, the energy that carries it, the layer of light, so to speak, that we can use as an example, to look at that energy, so that we have that flow.
So play in this regard. You have the senses to do that in some detail, and we played with it, so I think you will probably have a greater ability there than you think that you might now. And describing it in language makes it sound more difficult than it really is. It is just getting a sense of that.
The communications that you have had with the layers of light beings may have been translated into some thoughts or language or some way in which you are getting that communication. And if you look as to where that originated, it will be in that energy, it will be in this energy. So following that communication back will be another sort of glimpse into how this is done.
Okay. Viewing the energy that you are in in this way opens things up for your presence on the earth plane in significant degrees, and we are not totally starting, but we are starting to look at it in this way. We will explore this a lot here.
Okay, I think that is all we need, so get comfortable for a journey.
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Program 20 LB973E_20J DaBen: Layers of light beings assisting in exploring earth plane energy layers
DaBen: Welcome.
What fun it is to play with you in this way, to show you these energies. And with your sensitivity to these energies and your ability to sense and your skills, it is very gratifying to see what you can do with these spaces.
So let us explore now, let us look even more clearly and closely, so that we have this opening, this pathway into this flow, into this sense of engagement.
Good. Connecting with your guide now and asking your guide to assist you in experiencing to a greater degree of detail the subtleties of the energies that you will be exploring.
And as you harmonize the Renawre cocoon, the Nu’a-Dinia, notice emotional flow, just its nature, its nature of energy, the way the movement is. And recognize that each subtle variation in your emotion has a different energy, for lack of a better term, signature.
Good. Although perhaps a little more challenging to notice as energy is your mental fluidity. You know whether it is flowing, that is quite easy to notice. Notice if you can the details, the nature of that energy, how rapidly it moves, the sort of range of those movements.
Good. And now, finding that shimmer in the Renawre cocoon.
Good. And in that shimmer notice the energy of the Renawre cocoon, the way it brings elements that you have been exploring together, forming a unique and yet combined energy.
And here you might even notice part of your unique rhythm, something you might play with the layers of light, some light show that you might notice.
Good. And now, moving to the point of light of the Fullonia, and then out to the light body, the light body cocoon, and making the cocoon as large as you can easily hold, very easily hold that entire volume in your awareness. So that you have the light body, the light body energies, those energies easily coming back and sustaining your ability to be aware of them in detail.
Notice in the being space now and becoming luminous light that you can still be in the energies of the light body, very familiar energies, and have a perspective at a layer of energy higher than the light body, maybe just at the end of the luminous body, the edge of that light.
So that you are spanning, being able to have the ability to observe the energies from that level and the light body level of experience.
Becoming even more comfortable now at holding perspectives from those levels, from just at the edge of the luminous body, becoming luminous light at the level of the light body, noticing the energies here, the being space.
And then when you are ready, begin by focusing on a layer of light, whichever color you choose, and adding another, and another, another, until you have at least five or six. You can have more if you would like.
But engage them in your light show, in your playing, and creating chords and creating this light show.
Be as expressive now in your light show of you, your consciousness, your unique contribution, your unique expression on the earth plane.
And when the layers of light beings are able to come in on that light show that you are creating, greet them with an expression unique to your experience in consciousness, expressing the emotion or beautiful thought or any other experience that you would like.
Good. And as they begin to show and play harmonics to your light show, notice that they are already showing you aspects of that energy, ways to experience earth plane energy in harmonic ways to those that you have been playing with. Notice the variations.
For example, emotional flow, the harmonics that they can show you of that energy, so that you can begin to look at that emotional flow as not just your experience of emotional flow, but as a basic earth plane energy. That you are using that energy for your expression, but it is the medium that is on the earth plane and you are playing it as a light show or as an energy variation unique to you.
But the energy, the underlying energy, is an earth plane energy, and earth plane energy a part of a layer of vast consciousness on the earth plane providing you this medium, as it were, of expression, of communication, of being, of being conscious, of having this flexibility, of being consciousness, the being space, of having a place in which you can have energy flow, have the nature of consciousness find an expression.
Now, notice that all the while these layers of light beings have been creating a harmonic, a harmony in these energies, and that it is in part their showing you these harmonics that has made it easier for you to move into this space, to experience that flow, that flexibility in the being space to have this energy flow.
Good. And now, acknowledging the layers of light beings assisting you by joining their light show, as it were, finding your ability to play harmonics on the patterns that they have picked up on and are playing with you.
And as you play in this way, notice the various energies of your expression at this level of consciousness on the earth plane, the earth plane energies that you are in and a part of. Notice the depth that is available to you here as you expand your consciousness, as you find that flexibility in the being space to open your consciousness, to have a part of its evolving be engaged in the connection to this energy.
Good. And now, just noticing this energy as openly and completely as you find easy and enjoyable, knowing that you are on this process of discovering more and more depth here now, that you are a part of this energy, this being, this consciousness, all consciousness, that you are able to notice the details at this level of the earth plane, of your consciousness.
Good. And now just letting that go, thanking these layers of light beings, perhaps with playing in a light show as a thank you of some new expression of gratitude or joy or insight or emotional flow.
And coming back to the light body, the light body cocoon, collecting the energy here so that you are organizing it so that you can come back completely into your normal experience of ordinary reality with its enhancements of having experienced this way, but that you have a stable landing place, as it were.
Good. And now taking your time, at your own pace and rhythm, thanking your guide, and then coming back smoothly and easily to the time and space of the earth plane.
And with that, we bid you most pleasant journeys for now.
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Program 21 LB973E_21T Duane: Talk
Duane: All right. In watching each of you, you are doing well at finding that as energy, but in these particular areas of finding things as energy how many of you at a personality level looking back on it had found it easy to do that?
Okay, nearly everybody. Okay, great.
We are going to look even more in depth now at your unique individuality presence on the earth plane. We are going to use these energies, maybe the beings of light, but these energies to look at your experience.
We have done this before, but we are going to see now if you can, having explored in this way, if you can — if I can find the right words in the area — you have a unique expression, and it is important to recognize that your expression is unique on the earth plane. Your coming out into an individuality is unique, and you are borrowing, or in, or of earth plane energies as you do that, so finding a way to notice the nature of that. It is an interaction, but you are really expressing a uniqueness within those energies.
Now, maybe to help your personality to help you when you are in that space to notice what we are doing here, DaBen is helping you build skills to notice the nature of the energy you are in, to notice how it is evolving, so that as you make conscious choices of the energy that you want to use, you are in harmony with that. So that you are using finding a unique expression for you of something that is already developing of evolving consciousness that is already there.
In the past we would have called it joining the flow or the flow of consciousness. We are looking in more depth here.
As you are gaining consciousness in this way, you have the opportunity, as we have been doing for a number of seminars now, you have the opportunity to look in more depth and detail about the way that energy flows. And the more you notice about that, then the more easily you can join that.
So in the past when you have found those periods that you had a strong intuition and it just felt right to do something and it all turned out, it all was a great expression, a great accomplishment at an earth plane personality level, then you were using your intuition to move into or to sense these areas. So you have really been doing it for a very long time.
We are finding ways to increase our skills at doing it even more completely at a higher and higher level, at an earlier and earlier step to the process. So that what you get intuitions to do you are now finding support in that in energy, or you are finding support in that in energy and it matches at all the levels including the intuition level. It matches what you are seeing here and at intuition.
You are bringing an ability to sense that all together so that it takes on a coherence. Not at bringing it to the same level, but you are saying, ah, okay, this higher level, this is the way the energy is flowing, this is what evolving this consciousness is happening here, and that is happening but it is expressed slightly differently, all the way down to you as a unique individual. Now, that individuality has its own unique signature and its own response to consciousness that is evolving.
What is the right word, a secret perhaps, of doing this is to always be in that flow, or to so certainly know that flow that the timing you have for taking an action or the action that you take is in flow with what is already there, and that you are beginning to recognize that you are in and of this energy and that you cannot be separate from.
So you can complicate the flow of that evolving energy by doing something that is not in that, but eventually it will come back to that evolving. And you have a choice, as we come back to something very basic that Orin put in the Living With Joy book a long time ago, you will grow, and it is your choice of growing through struggle or through joy. If you are in that flow it can be through joy more and more easily and completely. We are looking at that in detail now.
Okay, so that is one way perhaps that we can get your communication with your personality to be in alignment.
For me the basic thing is that it just is so beautiful to be in that energy and to be anticipating that flow, and to have what we will get into in even more depth, that downpouring of light, the being space, the consciousness. The flexibility that that can flow into is so welcoming and so coming back to a more complete consciousness that I often do not even worry about the rest, it just happens.
See if you can find that sense of joy in that energy as well.
Okay, I think that is probably all we need. Get comfortable for a journey.
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Program 22 LB973E_22J DaBen: Experiencing levels of unique individuality in earth plane
DaBen: Welcome.
Truly as your consciousness expands into this level you will find it such a natural part, such a completing part of your experience that it will begin perhaps by being a space that opens from your experience of the being space that soon becomes a celebration of your individuality and of all the consciousness that you can experience behind it, creating it, all consciousness, many vast consciousnesses and the contribution in making this energy and creating the opportunities for you to find expression, and for you to represent these vast consciousnesses by creating a flow and beauty, your innate sense of beauty.
And so let us explore that now.
Be as open as you can to a flexible being space, for flow and for perspective. So that you shift your perspective from a higher level to inside that flow to the light body level to an earth plane personality level, in a way that you can more completely enjoy all that is in the expression of your individuality on the earth plane in this whole tapestry of no time and in the expressions of this moment.
Good. And so connecting with your guide now, and notice the residuals of the energies that you have been playing with.
Good. And moving to the light body, and then choosing a way to experience a part of your unique expression at the light body level of your individual nature on the earth plane in this instant.
And this instant is an expression of consciousness. So choosing to move back and forth easily now between no time and that full expression of all the energies that make up your individuality, from as far into that evolving consciousness as you can go, to even anticipating or being able to tease out of the energy how that individuality has evolved.
The balancing back and forth now between this instant in time and no time, finding that uniqueness, whether you start from some personality signature or trait or feeling about who you are in this time and this space on the earth plane, or as an energy and finding that expression, so that you have that whole being space consciousness and the flexibility in which you are observing and watching the energy flow.
And using becoming luminous light to open that space now to make even clearer, more visible, and recalling the harmonics that you had with the layers of light beings, opening that experience.
As you explore in this way, balancing your perspective, being flexible in the way that being space opens to this flow of energy, that you are discovering a unique quality, the nature of the energy, your individuality, you are finding that consciousness, that evolution of consciousness.
Join us now in following these shifts to give you an even greater overall energy experience. Just this shift, finding that evolving, that for right what we will call potential of consciousness, the being space and the flexibility of that opening.
Now, just being your experience, thanking your guide, being in and of this space now, with the ability to look at this energy and this level of detail, where detail is too simple a word or concept to describe the depth in which you have been able to experience and be in this energy.
Good. And now, just letting that go, coming back, having thanked your guide and being in this space, coming back smoothly and easily to the time and space of the earth plane.
And to the degree that you can, let this set of experiences now be a small part of your perspective even from your primary presence at the level of the earth plane’s ordinary reality.
Good. And with that now, coming back smoothly and easily, we bid you most pleasant journeys for now.
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Program 23 LB973E_23T Duane: Talk
Duane: As you look at your unique individuality in this way from these spaces, it will become easier for you to find expressions. And DaBen has been encouraging us for a long time to find things as energy, probably from the very first journeys, finding things as energy.
As you explore here with your skills, the levels you have now, one of the things that keeps you vibrant on the earth plane, keeps you engaged on the earth plane, is expanding, is growing, learning, or a term that probably applies at that level and we are going to change its meaning as we go into higher levels, but evolving. The personality likes evolving, learning new things, new experiences.
At a personality level there is seemingly a limited number of forms of this evolving, of this new things. And there is an infinite number of variations on those forms. I do not think that all of the forms have been invented yet, depending on how you look at it. With all of our technologies now there are all sorts of additional ways to find that expression.
So as you play in this way, in the next journey DaBen is going to ask you to look at, at an energy level, more expressions of your unique beingness, of in the being space your unique energy, your unique expression.
Just begin to notice it as energy. Let it be as energy as long as you would like. We are just sort of planting energy signatures, energy seeds, that when the time is right you will find an expression for them to open. So we are just looking at that.
A part of our exploring evolving, and evolving with peace, we have not looked in any detail yet about the “with peace” part, but we are looking at the evolving part.
As you play in that way, as you look there, you begin to recognize that as you are in that energy, as you are conscious, that evolving comes with that consciousness. It is an innate quality of consciousness.
The more you find expressions, and you do not need to even notice them as expressions. In fact you may notice many of them when you look back and say, oh, well I used to think this way about it, or I used to do things this way, or I used to like this. It has evolved. You may only notice some sort of after the fact in sequential time.
So as you are evolving, as you are gaining your consciousness, finding expressions for that innate quality of evolving in your consciousness makes life a lot more interesting, a lot more in the presence, in the moment, in the flow.
So let us look at that with your skills now at being in this energy. We will not use layers of light necessarily, but you have already learned a lot about those energy levels on the earth plane, and so we will look at that. If DaBen feels we can gain, we may do layers of light as well.
Okay. I think that is all we need. Be inventive. This is not a form that you are going to create so there is no need to sensor it and say, oh, that is not anything I could do, so that you get that inventiveness there.
Okay, I think that is all we need, so get comfortable for a journey.
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Program 24 LB973E_24J DaBen: Exploring at energy new expressions of your unique energy on the earth plane
DaBen: Welcome.
Your unique individual expression on the earth plane is an expression of the energies of the earth plane, that you are of the earth plane, and as these energies you are able to move beyond and experience communications with beings and energies that are truly beyond the earth plane.
And recognize that the earth plane can amplify your ability to communicate in this way, to reach these energies. The earth plane is not cut off from or not in connection with these energies. The earth plane and all the entities of like consciousness are drawn to communicate in no space, they are as close to like. So recognize that you can use to your advantage in these connections your ability to be in, and uniquely an expression of, the earth plane.
And connecting with your guide now and moving to the light body, the light body cocoon.
Good. And now, noticing that luminous light, becoming luminous light now, that downpouring of energy, the being space, and spanning these experiences. So that you have a part of your ability to be aware at each of these levels, that flexibility of the being space opening to this light and energy.
And in a sense of no time now, find you as unique energy. Teasing out of that energy perhaps the potential for energies to express in the next year or two, or ten years, and from this back and forth between time and no time noticing how that fits in with the whole pattern of this lifetime.
Good. And as energy, be inventive now with its expression. And this expression need not be unique among all energies, but unique to your energy, for your expressing it will be your unique energy expressing it.
Now, with that energy, with that flow, notice how this series of experiences that you have had or have created blend together into an expression of movement, of flow from one, to the next, to the next. It need not be sequential in time, but that this evolution is a constant process of being more conscious, being more conscious.
And sometimes that consciousness is acquired as though it were part of a puzzle. You get the pieces in a different sequence than you might assemble them into the puzzle. Some of the pieces may take more examination, more consciousness in order to understand, if that is the right word, their pattern and shape.
So that you begin here to get the sense that evolving is not necessarily what your personality or logical mind would like. It is out of order sometimes, and in no time it is as though you are pulling even out of time, but in an order that requires consciousness in order to even notice the nature of a set of energies that you have discovered.
Noticing the space that you are in now, the changing states of consciousness to be in that space, and enjoy that. Enhance this states of consciousness, these states of consciousness, in a way that your innate enjoyment of these spaces is increased.
That flow of energy, of luminous light, to the being space, this quality of the being space, this flexibility, the first glimpse at the nature of consciousness in this particular way, an opening to noticing more of that inherent quality of evolving.
Good. And just letting that go now. Know that you have played in this way, and by playing in this way that you have created new connections, become conscious of new connections, new ways in which to be in and of this energy, to find unique expressions, unique to your presence on the earth plane.
Good. And thanking your guide now, and coming back smoothly and easily to the earth plane, at your own pace and rhythm, coming back smoothly and easily.
And with that, we bid you most pleasant journeys for now.
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Program 25 LB973E_25T Duane: Talk
Duane: Okay. We are going to expand on that in this next journey by looking at connections. We have played with this before, and connections is definitely a radiance level term.
It is going to be easier for you to play with it, to experience it, if you recognize that it is not really a connection, it is an expression of energies of the earth plane that you are using, that you are resonating with, that you are made up of. Much as the layers of light that we have just begun to explore, it is an earth plane energy that we have not noticed really in a conscious way before.
As you notice these expressions, these for lack of a more descriptive term, these connections, see if you can find that as a part of this whole flow of light, this downpouring of energy from the luminous body through your being, your sense of being space, into that flexibility.
And DaBen will describe that flexibility in better terms, but right now he wants you to just keep exploring what that might be, what would enable that, what visualization would enable that for you. So just let that energy be.
As you do this journey, if you find a space that is really comfortable, attractive, vibrant, see if you can join that experience. That being dynamic with that experience carries you, that you keep noticing that energy.
And just stay with it as long as you can, and if you are still enjoying it then come back to it. Noticing when it has dissipated and come back, so that you get used to coming back to that sense of flow, so that you can begin to notice how to focus the energies at this level.
Okay, I think that is all we need, so get comfortable for a journey.
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Program 26 LB973E_26J DaBen: Creating an experience of the flow to flexibility of being space
DaBen: Welcome.
Connecting with your guide now, and notice the energy that connecting with your guide opens for you.
Good. And now moving to the light body, the light body cocoon, all the energies that you could choose to play with, all the ways in which you could experience the being space. Enhancing that now and making some in-this-moment choices as to what to experience.
Bring that luminous body, that luminous light down into your experience, opening energies, so that you begin to establish a sort of flow, but flow not just in the radiance term from one place to the next, from luminous body to the light body and your experience of the being space from the light body level, but that flow, that presence of this energy as it comes seemingly out of no experience to full experience, that luminous light just appearing as a part of the being space.
So that you are using your ability, your observation of this energy, your familiarity with this energy, to provide an opportunity for it to have an expression at this part of your experience, this flexibility of the being space, this opening to this luminous light.
And just be in and engaged with this flow, this appearing of luminous light in this being space, the flexibility of the being space or your experience of it, to create more and more opportunities for energies to appear, to become a part of your experience.
And then begin to be discriminating, and moving your ability to be aware from one type of energy to the next, until you find a group of energies that are just right at this moment to carry your experience into that being space at a new level, to notice the way in which the qualities of being, your consciousness and consciousness, capture your attention.
Good. And using now, if it is easy for you, using the various ranges of energy in the light body gridwork to give you a greater breadth, all the contributions of all the thousands of people that have contributed their consciousness to forming the gridwork, to making it such a beautiful range of energies.
Using the gridwork now to enhance your range of experience in this area that you are exploring that you were drawn to, opening that space and exploring.
Continue to be in that space or come back to that space, or find a new space that attracts you, that has that right degree of flow, the sense of this energy just appearing in the being space.
You might notice the nature of the energy that you find attractive or at least has attracted your attention in this moment.
As you play in this way, notice the constancy that there can be in this very dynamic experience, a constancy of the space that you are holding and aware of for all of this energy, all this dynamic, all of this potential to evolve.
Letting that experience now be a sort of memory, a reminder, as it were, of holding that space for this flow, for your experience, the constancy, of your ability to hold an experience of this dynamic energy, the being space, the flexibility, the flow of energy, evolving as an inherent quality of that consciousness, all parts of your ability to experience.
An energy that you have drawn to you, that you are expressing, that you are able to be conscious of through your senses and skills and the states of consciousness that you can achieve and hold.
Good. And thanking your guide now and coming back to the time and space of the earth plane, smoothly and easily. You are doing very well, and we look forward to moving into this next space.
Coming back smoothly and easily to the time and space of the earth plane, and with that, we bid you most pleasant journeys for now.
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Program 27 LB973E_27T Duane: Talk
Duane: We have been playing with these energies, looking at them as energy rather than translating them into language or concepts, at least any more often than we needed to do that.
So we are going to begin combining some of the energies that we have been playing with, looking at them in different combinations so that we have an even greater sense of that energy.
Then we will start looking at bringing some of that to a way that you can experience, and maybe even putting some of that experience to language so that you have markers to place there.
You are at a level in exploring these energies in which the concepts that we have, at least in our culture, are so limited to describe to what we are experiencing, and in many cases even beyond limited.
The things that might look the same, the concepts are all wrong. They just do not describe it at all. They do not approach it, either through a lack of sophistication in it, or that it does not go far enough, or the foundation on which the belief system that the concept is based on just is not what you are experiencing at the energy at this level. So it is sometimes tricky to reconcile that.
As we have learned more and more of these energies, as we have experienced some of the metaphysical truths and so on, at this time in our culture science is making a lot of interesting — and science is a belief system that the culture has that places great value in it — science has been making some really significant breakthroughs in discovering things that match some of our metaphysical concepts, or some of the metaphysical experiences that people have expressed over the years.
Just remember that science’s purpose is to gain knowledge, and so it is always incomplete. As you explore here you are going to sometimes find what you experience is a concept in science and quantum mechanics and so on that will have some valuable insights for you.
You can say, oh, that is a concept that works. I wonder if I take that as an analogy how far can I apply it. You look at analogies and you say, okay, this area here might be an analogy that I could use, and as you apply the analogy, if the analogy is really a good match, then things that the analogy tells you will be things you can discover in your experience in that energy. And if you cannot go very many layers, then it is not a good analogy. So as you try to find ways in which to put this into language and use the concepts that we have, just notice how good the analogy is.
As you look at the light body, as you have played with the light body, as I have been looking more at describing some of the basic principles now that I have a bit more perspective on what DaBen has shown us, I tried to go back and look at the Awakening course to see what ideas or concepts that were required to really do the light body.
And I have come to the conclusion that really the only belief system one has to have to do the light body is that your experience has meaning. Everything else you can experience, and you can derive then your beliefs as you choose from experiences that you have had. That does not mean that experience you had a week ago or ten years ago will be true today unless you can re-experience it, but at least it is your experience.
Now, experience may not be the greatest tool to apply to this, but it is probably the best tool we as humans have.
I have shared that for a while I read philosophy thinking that that would be an insight into some of this, and some of the metaphysical philosophers in the current area I thought, well gee, they are going to have at least the language and at least some of the concepts. But to my chagrin, they are all limited to Descartes logic, and if they cannot find it in that logic, it does not exist. Well, we are way beyond that.
Just notice that you are forming your belief systems based on your experience, to the degree that you can. And if you find that you are struggling to find a concept that works, invent your own, find that.
One thing that DaBen has been insistent upon is that we not invent our own language to any degree greater than absolutely necessary. He felt from the very beginning that one of the things we wanted to try to avoid if we could is any sense that you as doing the light body could regard it as a ritual. That if you did a certain number of internal visualizations or made a certain number of sounds in a particular way, that you would be in the space.
DaBen has really designed the light body so that if you do not get in that space, it has no interest to you. So you are all getting into that space, so your experience is a good place to start in these areas.
All right. I have taken so long in describing that because as we start to combine these various energies you are going to find, I hope, and I am sure that you will in many cases, you are going to find that it brings together energies that are going to give you new insights into how the energies work.
Much as we have used the layers of light so far, and there is lots more that we will use them for, the layers of light and layers of light beings to really look into earth plane. Okay, now that we are looking into earth plane in a different way, then we have an opportunity to take something that we began this three-series course in in the being space and really look at it in a larger context, in a more in-depth context.
And DaBen started by showing you that sort of experience of flexibility. We did more with becoming luminous light as opening that. So let us see how far we can go.
The last journey before lunch we really explored just holding that energy, could we hold that energy. It is a dynamic energy. Everything is dynamic. All of these energies have a dynamic nature to them.
So as you hold that, as you experience that in this next journey, see how you can combine them. See how you can make that experience expand out into new areas for you. Look for opportunities for new areas, for new ways to hold that experience, to be in that experience.
In the past we have often sought out energies that would carry us. These energies will carry us without a large degree of surrender. And surrender will work to a degree, and so make sure you are not resisting, you are not hanging onto something when you get the sense that if you just sort of let the flow carry you, you would be to that next space.
But as you play in these energies, look for opportunities to explore in new ways. Take an energy that interests you and just see where it goes. Find it in detail. How does it combine, how deep into earth plane experience can you go? Does it take you into thought forms, does it take you into physical sensations, does it take you to any other sort of way that you can experience? Just see what that exploration is.
I hope also in this journey you will get a greater sense of what DaBen calls flexibility, so that you notice that that being space energy can open up, does open up. So be as inventive as you can around what that being space can open to. It can open to a flow, it can open to a particular way of being in that experience of the being space. What richness can it take on?
As you play in this way you are also playing with that sort of edge of where do you try to go out into what looks like infinity and how hard do you push into that experience. Just enough to get your detailed focus in the area you are in to soften just a little bit, but not so much that you sort of surrender or give up that you will be able to get details. So you are balancing on that edge. You are sort of dancing on that edge.
Okay. In this journey DaBen will remind you sometimes to try it faster or try it slower, so that you are experimenting with its rhythm, so that you are using its rhythm to help carry your experience, to help you move deeper in that experience.
If you find that you are in that experience and DaBen asks you to do something else, just ignore DaBen. Take the experience you are having. The object is to get into these spaces.
Okay, I think that is all we need, so get comfortable for a journey.
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Program 28 LB973E_28J DaBen: Spaces to experience inherent quality of evolving in being space
DaBen: Welcome.
As you connect with your guide now, ask your guide to assist you in overcoming any of your thoughts or thought forms about what you should experience, or how you should experience, or why you are experiencing it, to just be your experience. Whether it moves from one experience to the other without any seeming connection, or whether it flows very evenly, just let yourself experience.
And know that as you do, that you are in this energy, and we will assist you, and the beings that have been drawn to your skill level will assist you. And let the insights, the aha moments come, and enjoy them.
Good. And now noticing the shimmer in the Renawre cocoon.
And then finding the point of light of the Fullonia, and hanging onto that light as it gets smaller and smaller, brighter and brighter, gathering that propulsion, as it were, out into the light body cocoon.
Good. Finding the being space now.
Good. And just following these shifts, let us go as thoroughly into this experience of the being space as we can, and begin here pretty much at the same space.
And then becoming luminous light, using the luminous body, that downpouring of light, and in doing so you open more and more of your awareness of the being space, of the nature of the energy of consciousness, including its evolving, the flexibility of this space, of this opening.
Let us begin by exploring then these layers of light and how they are similar to energies on the earth plane.
And as you play your unique light show, notice that opening into experiencing the earth plane in this degree of harmony, of harmonizing energy, so that you can begin to find harmonics in your playing to the earth plane energies at this very specific level.
And expand outward now so that you are able to hold an area nearly as large as the planetary sphere. Not focusing on the consciousness, the immense, vast space, vast consciousnesses of the earth plane, but just these frequencies of these layers of light in all their various manifestations around the earth in your experience.
So that you are playing large here in your experience, using the light body gridwork perhaps to assist you, but reaching, stretching to include all of this pattern of these layers of light energy.
Deriving from your experience now an even greater sense of the consciousness of being space, of all consciousness, using the earth plane, the planet, your experience in these layers of light to just watch how that dynamic nature has an intrinsic energy of not just being dynamic, but contained within it an evolution, a drive to acquire consciousness, and how that consciousness, that evolution, will find expressions, will create energies, will create opportunities for other energies.
Good. Just noticing your energy now, that expanse of energy, that opening that you have experienced before with the being space and becoming luminous light, that you can notice right on top of that energy as that sense of an inherent evolving, an inherent beyond time, beyond any sense of creating new forms or creating new consciousness, there is new consciousness.
And that you can play in that fine energy right at the edge, that fine energy at the edge of your experience of the layers of light as large as the earth and earth plane, as conscious as being, the being space, as open as luminous light.
As you experience this energy, this energy right at the surface, or so to speak at the surface of your experience, this energy buoyed up or being provided a foundation by all of the experiences that you have been able to create and the skills that you have for being in the being space, and borrowing the power of the earth plane and these particular layers of light patterns and frequencies which opens into much of the consciousness of the earth plane, of the earth.
Good. For most of you now, take an active part in the energy of surrendering to that flow, of being in that flow, and yet somehow you are creating, you are co-creating that flow in your experience by experiencing it. You are providing an opportunity just by your being able to experience, your being able to notice these energies in this way. Your being, your observing, your playing here opens these spaces for that natural inherent quality of consciousness to evolve, to build consciousness.
Very good. Notice these experiences now, and then just letting this go. And as you thank your guide and begin to come back to the light body, the light body cocoon, notice your experiences here, the depth of their energy.
Good. And then just letting that go, and as you come back, notice the nature and depth of your experience of consciousness in this type of energy at this level.
And coming back now smoothly and easily to the time and space of the earth plane, recalling as much as you can of this experience.
And with that, we bid you most pleasant journeys for now.
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Program 29 LB973E_29T Duane: Talk
Duane: At your personality level, how many of you found that to be an easy space to find and hold, how many of you found that?
Okay, most. Great.
We are going to do just a very short journey. As we look at this energy, as we play in this way, see if you can use it to look at some of the energy that you have at a personality level to grow, to explore, when you are feeling most alive. That growth and feeling of wanting to explore is probably among the strongest times.
See if you can find any similarities between this energy that you are exploring at this level and that at a personality level when you are really feeling alive and wanting to explore and do something new.
Okay, I think that is all we need. This will be a short journey. Just try to compare, get back into these spaces.
Okay, get comfortable for a journey.
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Program 30 LB973E_30J DaBen: Spaces to experience evolving space, second short journey
DaBen: Welcome.
With your guide’s assistance now returning, to the degree that you can, to an experience of the energies that you were just exploring.
Finding the light body, a
d with your guide’s assistance these same spaces, the being space, the luminous light, that flexibility and the opening of the being space with luminous light and with this flow, with energy just appearing, being a part of your experience.
Good. And now, that energy right on the top of this level. Notice how it forms or comes into your ability to experience it, to be aware from this consciousness, from this sense of evolving. It is sort of potential, but it is not. It is an opening of your being, your being space.
Good. And now just letting that go, thanking your guide, as you come back now smoothly and easily.
Good. At your own pace and rhythm coming back smoothly and easily to the time and space of the earth plane.
And with that, we bid you most pleasant journeys for now.
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Program 31 LB973E_31T Duane: Talk
Duane: Okay. Thank you all for sharing and asking your questions. Hopefully the answers assisted you and gives me a better sense as to what part of the energies as we bring them, transmit is the wrong word, but as we transmit how many steps to put in and so on.
Okay. Evolving. DaBen spent a long time searching my command of the English language and dictionaries to find a better word. That captures most of the essence of what we are after, but it implies a radiance level term, from one form to another form, with the implication that the new form is in some way better than the old form, or in addition to the old form, and so on.
With consciousness and with evolving consciousness there is not that same directional sense, and there is not a sense of replacement at all. It is a sense of an in-addition-to. And there is often a sense of this is a better experience, a more evolved experience, but not necessarily, it just may be an in-addition-to consciousness.
So that as you explore, as you play here, as you look at the evolving that we played in the last two journeys, that experience — and you can help me pick a word here — it is a type, or a variation on consciousness. So that this variation of consciousness, this evolving, is an inherent energy, it is an inherent drive to find additional expressions.
And we have already talked about this a little bit and perhaps your experience will be stronger now, evolving is like we were looking at time, sequential time, and then you recognize that you can move that into an experience of no time.
In the beginning we had difficulty in doing that. We could sort of pretend one or the other, but we always fell back to comparing no time to somehow it had to be sequential, or it was sequential, we just were pretending that it was not.
We have hopefully gotten to the place that you at times can experience no time as a way of holding the energies, a way of being in the energies, and hopefully some of the time you have gotten to the place where you go into sequencing them just to help you make sense of them or to know more about them, and then back to no time. You can let your on-the-earth-plane mind go sort of on neutral and be in this no time space.
The same with evolving. Evolving has the definite directional, and you can just let it be a part of consciousness, but we want to notice it. We want to really notice what that evolving energy is and is like.
The title of this seminar is one that DaBen chose, obviously, Evolving with Peace. In order to reach the peace that your personality wants or is after or we have been taught is a goal on the earth plane is to be peaceful, first of all you have to recognize that peace is never totally peaceful because it is dynamic. The only way to be, quote, “peaceful” is to evolve with that dynamic nature of the energy. You cannot fix it.
All of you know this, and maybe it has been years since you have done this, but all of you know this. You get to something you really enjoy and you say, that is perfect, and you grab onto it and you are going to keep it. Well, a few seconds or a few weeks later it has evolved and you did not. Now it is no longer even resembling peace.
So it is evolving with peace. It is recognizing that dynamic nature. If you are not convinced that everything we are looking at is dynamic now, I am sure that you soon will be, because everything we look at —
There were things as I was working on this with DaBen, things to prepare to do in the journeys, and I kept saying, well, we can just let that be a static point, right? No. If you are going to be really conscious about what it is like, it is dynamic.
When we first taught the light body one of the instructions to the teachers was to get to a, quote, “stable” place. There is lots going on, it is really dynamic there, but it is dynamic in a way that is sort of stable.
At this level of consciousness is not sort of stable. It is dynamic, and you have to stay up with it, you have to evolve with it. And so as you play in this way, just recognize that it is dynamic.
Now, dynamic, it is a pretty good word, it matches what DaBen is looking at. It is not change, it is dynamic. It may involve change, but it is not necessarily that change. Now here we go into this sequential time-no time. It is dynamic, it is there. The change may come about in the way it then interacts or connects, but in and of itself it is dynamic.
Okay. Now you are getting into some real physicist tricks here where you draw the boundary, where is the closed system. Pretty soon you realize there is no closed system. And so it is change, it is dynamic.
As you play in this way, just recognize that that is the underlying nature, and you have reached a level of consciousness now that you recognize it, it is there.
DaBen has asked you to bring together all the elements that you need to make the first real foray into evolving with peace. You have connection to the earth plane through these layers of light beings, a stronger connection at a pretty close to an emotional energy level, you can interact with the earth plane through these layers of light.
The beings are there to instruct you perhaps. They are not integral to your process other than as an instructor. Well, they will be more than that, but right now they are just showing you things. They are speeding your learning curve in a significant way, things that would have taken you a long time to discover. At least for me, I would not have thought of many of the things that just come out of their harmonics.
And so as you play, you have got that balance, that back and forth. And you have the being space. We used luminous light, DaBen used luminous light to open the energies so that you can look into that energy more, and you are getting a sense of that flow now into that being space, of what DaBen calls flexibility into that space.
Now in the last two journeys we looked at that sort of energy on top of some of that. Nearly all of you were in a space to recognize what DaBen meant by the sort of top energy of that evolving, that evolving energy.
So you can look at evolving energy, you can choose your experience, you can gain greater insight into what it is like to be evolving. You can then choose to evolve with that energy and evolve with peace.
Now, all sorts of good things come from this. You are now what we used to call joining the flow. You are not trying to push the flow faster than it is going. You are not trying to invent something that is 20 years from now. You are inventing what is next, what is the next thing for you, what is the next thing for you to express, what opens that energy. You can be right at the right at the right time, right place, synchronicity in your evolving.
Now, as with most things, it requires a little development of skill, but it is very reachable.
In this next journey we are going to begin to pull together some of those elements, to play. It is a balance. It is a vague childhood memory for me, but I fell lots of times, it is sort of like learning to ride a bicycle. It is a balance. If you steer too much, you are no longer in the flow. If you steer too late, you are no longer in the flow. If you guess early and steer too early, you are no longer in the flow. But for those of you who still ride bicycles, that is a natural talent that you have not forgotten. We are learning that balance now.
And it really is a balance. I played with using it’s a dance as an analogy. But it is really a balance. The analogy of a bicycle directional, it implies that there is a direction to this evolution. There is just that dynamic there, not necessarily a direction. Your personality will regard it as a direction, regard it as this is different than the sequence of time before it, and so the analogy works there, but you have to sort of bounce back and forth.
So let us play now with that experience, evolving as a directional sort of thing, as inherent in being in consciousness, or being conscious. It is inherent there.
And it is a recognition that you are in and of this consciousness energy, and in and of earth plane consciousness energy. So you do not have to invent it all on your own. You have all the power you need. You do not have to bring the power to bear. The earth plane is bringing that power to bear, the consciousness coming through it is bringing that power, and so recognize that.
There is no pressure it has to be done in this journey, it will continue to evolve as we do, but we have got the rest of today and all of tomorrow, and lots of ways in which to play.
Okay, get comfortable for a journey.
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Program 32 LB973E_32J DaBen: First bringing elements of dynamic evolving with peace together in experience
DaBen: Welcome.
Recognize that as you are playing in this way you are opening possibilities for you, for all of you in this group, for the gridwork, for humanity, for the earth plane. That reaching consciousness at this level is an exciting place to be, an opening.
Good. And connecting with your guide now.
Good. And moving to the light body, the light body cocoon.
Good. Now, returning to that space, this being space, this opening here, that luminous light, becoming luminous light so that there is an internal illumination to your experience, to the energies you are experiencing.
Good. Now, letting that energy flow into that flexibility, a type of opening in the being space, expanding your ability to be consciousness, all consciousness, opening to that space.
Good. Now, evolving, noticing that as an inherent energy of this consciousness. Beginning to notice the layers of light that might assist you in opening, to discovering a depth to that consciousness, the being space on the earth plane.
So that as you are experiencing this power of the connection, this depth of the connection, this surface energy, this evolving energy, this opening to new consciousness, finding an expression within that earth plane energy, within your consciousness, within all consciousness.
Good. And now, connecting, and that is not the best word, but notice the energy as it forms seemingly out of nowhere, that energy, that consciousness, connecting that to your presence on the earth plane through those layers of light, through that perhaps vibrational energy body, emotional flow connection.
So that all of these layers are being synchronized or harmonized by your observation and presence in this no time to such a degree that as the energy is expressed in evolving you are in part facilitating that expression, in part being an expression of it, in being conscious of that evolving, being in that dynamic nature.
So perfectly attuned to this energy that you have reached that sense of being fully engaged in that flow, this consciousness, this evolution.
Now, experience this energy now, this evolving as an inherent part of consciousness, being space, being all consciousness, holding that energy, being a part of that consciousness and its inherent nature of evolving, dynamic, building consciousness.
Good. And now, just letting that go, coming back to the light body, the light body cocoon, thanking your guide, and then coming back smoothly and easily to the time and space of the earth plane.
Good. Smoothly and easily coming back now, having had this experience of evolving, being in that space, bringing these elements together, just enjoy this conscious opening of coming back to the earth plane at your own pace and rhythm.
And with that, we bid you most pleasant journeys for now.
Program 33 LB973E_33T Duane: Talk
Duane: There is one other element that we will look at today that will be an issue perhaps for some of you, or may be already something that you are noticing, playing with, or trying to work with.
As you gain consciousness, as you begin to become more conscious of the energies about you, then you have to find ways to focus on what it is that you want to focus on and not be distracted by other things. And I am not talking just about doing your tasks or getting your left brain to work optimally or whatever.
As you gain consciousness you notice more. And as you notice more, one of your personality responses may be that, well, it should be this way. And we have already covered that in some detail, but just a gentle reminder, if you are arguing with what is, you are a fool. It does not mean you cannot change the what-is, but if you are actively arguing with it, it is not going to work for you.
That is almost a different level, but it is the beginning of what you are maybe noticing now. As you notice more and more that things are dynamic, as you are participating in this noticing evolution and evolving consciousness, then a part of what you will be observing are things that you have not really noticed before. Maybe you will get insights into what this energy is made up of, how it works. Begin to look at that.
An analogy that we used at one of the breaks that seems to carry fairly well, if you are reading something — and we are using a visual analogy — if you are reading something and you are focused on that, but evolution has given us the ability in peripheral vision to pick up any kind of motion. So if there is motion, then you will notice over here and you will look to see what that motion is. But if there is no motion, you are not even paying attention to it. You have seen it, it is not important, I am reading.
So as you play in that way, as you work with this level of consciousness, you need to develop a similar sort of skill, so that you are noticing the energies that you are choosing to focus on or that you are being drawn to focus on, and letting the rest just be the energy that it is.
A term that we have used that I still like to some degree, particularly at a cultural, earth plane, personality level, is if you are focusing on interacting with a person, having a good conversation, you engaged in that can be at a party and the rest just drops away. It just becomes noise, and then you can shift your focus.
Well, there are lots of opportunities for noise in our culture, in our devices and so on. So it is learning to focus, and then you can shift your focus. And it is not like the analogy if there is motion out there you might want to pay attention to it. You can really choose when and what to pay attention to most of the time, or that you can set an environment in which you only have to pay attention to what you choose to pay attention to.
Now you already have lots of techniques for mind chatter and so on, so this is not about that. This is about you noticing the energy that you want to focus on and notice its evolving, noticing the energy within it and focusing on that, and not being distracted, not letting the noise interfere with that focus.
As you become more conscious, particularly of how dynamic things are, we in part have learned to pay attention to things in our analogy of moving, or we have learned to pay attention to certain emotions or emotional things or thoughts or entangled thoughts, and we have learned to pay attention to energies that move in a certain way or that attract us.
You are now learning the skill as you gain this consciousness to pay attention, to focus just on what it is that you are choosing to focus on, and until you observe the energy to the degree that you choose, and then focus on something else. But do not let the something else interfere with your focus there.
It makes evolving with peace and grasping, understanding is the beginning part of that word, but it is not the right word. Understanding the nature of the dynamic energy that you are in and how it is evolving so that you might evolve with it, or be in concert, or be exactly in tune with it, requires you to focus on it for a period of energy. Now, that may be time, it may be no time, but it requires a certain grasp of the nature of that energy.
And so as you play in that way, this skill will be important to develop as well. So as our last journey today we will look at that skill, and then we will play in depth with evolving with peace and that skill and others tomorrow.
Okay. Have fun. Remember that mastery is not staying in that, but coming back, because you will be distracted. It is an inevitability as you gain consciousness that you have not yet learned how to focus at this level of consciousness.
Okay, get comfortable for a journey.
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Program 34 LB973E_34J DaBen: Learning focus at this level of consciousness, evolving with peace
DaBen: Welcome.
You are doing so well. It is such a pleasure to hold these spaces and have you fill your consciousness into them with an understanding, with an ability, with a skill, with a sensing.
So let us explore one more aspect here.
Finding that point of light of the Fullonia, connecting out with your guide.
And then finding the being space and your experience with it now.
And then that flexibility, that opening, made even more visible with luminous light, becoming luminous light to assist you in focusing as you experience that opening energy then, this consciousness, all consciousness, this connection through the layers of light to the similar energy to layers of light on the earth plane.
So that you have these elements, and we will expand those elements, but you have a beginning, you have a skill playing with these.
So begin to notice now this energy right on top, this evolving, this inherent quality of consciousness.
Good. And now, notice an area, choose an area of this evolving energy nature. Notice it as a part of consciousness, the being space. And notice that it is a part of your experience of the being space and all consciousness, and you can focus on this area.
You can use no time to bring a greater depth to it, or you could use sequential time to notice the potential that might form out of that consciousness, out of that evolving, or the potential energy itself. Or it might, as you focus upon, it continue to be dynamic and evolve.
Using as many ways as you can to be inventive. Keep your attention on this ever-dynamic, ever-finding-expressions perhaps, or evolving, creating new openings.
Now, if you have maintained your focus, or returned your focus, and you have reached a point of experiencing this energy in as much depth as you would like, choose another area.
If you have not achieved that depth that you would like in your experience, then experiment with using layers of light to gain a different set of energies around this area, or in a more general way notice it within the all consciousness experience of being, or using downpouring of luminous light to open your energy and the energy you are focused upon to notice more of the detail. Be inventive.
Very good. Just notice as you focused and re-focused, changed where you are focusing, that you were able to notice this inherent energy sort of at the surface, this evolving, and how dynamic it is, and even begin to notice the nature of the energy of that evolving and how you could harmonize with it and join it, and the power that was there in joining that energy, the opening.
Good. And now, just letting that go, thanking your guide, truly just letting this go. You have gained a great insight and skill, sensitivity. Just letting it go, absorbing what you have absorbed in expressing that as a part of your normal presence.
Good. Now, coming back, having thanked your guide, coming back to the time and space of the earth plane, smoothly and easily, at your own pace and rhythm.
And with that, we bid you most pleasant journeys for now.