DaBen's Evolving with Peace Light Body Seminar
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Directory of  Programs
Program 01 LB973X_01T Duane: Talk and Welcome
Program 02 LB973X_02J DaBen: Solidity of evolving space and opening to observation, next level
Program 03 LB973X_03T Duane: Talk
Program 04 LB973X_04J DaBen: Exploring down pouring of luminous light as a visualization and energy
Program 05 LB973X_05T Duane: Talk
Program 06 LB973X_06J DaBen: Exploring the beings that create the layers of light for you
Program 07 LB973X_07T Duane: Talk
Program 08 LB973X_08J DaBen: Evolving, the elements and details with explanations


Program 01 LB973X_01T Duane: Talk

Duane:  Well, in the main group all of you did very well helping to organize that energy, keeping it coherent.  We brought lots of elements together to create the space this time, so I appreciate you holding that space. 

We have reached a level in the main group that was at least one difficult step beyond where I thought we would be able to go, so that is very, very nice.  And we had a solid introduction to the layers of light beings that we will use in the next seminars, so very successful. 

Okay.  As seed group let us explore a couple other areas then.  And depending on how we as a group do, we may include aspects in the discovery group tomorrow, or we may go in a slightly different direction for those journeys, depending on how we are able to respond, whether they open up as the way DaBen would like to project out the next energies. 

In this first journey one of the things that we have usually done with energies once we have them at some level of mastery is something that — DaBen’s word, it has got a proper meaning for him, and in our English it is not exactly the meaning we want, but we have used it before.  We have a solidity to our experience now.  We have a foundation that is there, that we can build on.  We have often played with solidity of connection and that sort of thing, and it made sense the way DaBen used it in our language.  He is using it more in his language now.  But let us just take a look at that. 

One of the things that DaBen means by solidity and what we are looking at in this regard is that the energy will come back together.  It is coherent.  You can find it in your experience.  Once you have experienced that energy and once it has reached a solidity, then it comes back sort of on its own.  And if you get any element of it in your experience, then it is there. 

It is as though it has been created and you have that as a place to go that you do not then have to assemble all the elements, the elements are there and you can build on it.

So let us take sort of the next half step in energy that we can play with and see if we have got that solidity to base that on, see if we have got the energy foundation.

If we do, then it should be pretty easy to build beyond that.  If we do not, then as you play in that it will take a little bit longer but you will be able to easily assemble it.  So we will succeed either way, but we want as a seed group to give DaBen a chance to see, okay, did the little touching that we did in the main seminar on this whole coherence — and there is more to it than we reached in the main seminar — and part of the question is do we need the rest of it to be solid or not? 

It will be fun journey, but I am giving you a little explanation as to why we are doing it. 

Okay, get comfortable for a journey. 

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Program 02 LB973X_02J DaBen: Solidity of evolving space and opening to observation, next level

DaBen:  Welcome. 

It is our pleasure to have all of you in the same space and time to play in this way.  We send you our gratitude and appreciation for your assistance in holding those spaces.  This evolving with peace involves a number of elements, and you are very successful in helping to hold that space. 

So let us look now at another addition, as it were, another small step in that evolving energy, and to look at the solidity of that as energy so that you might notice how easily others could discover this energy as well, which of course is part of all of our desires and goals. 

Good.  And connecting with your guide. 

Good.  And then find the light body, the light body cocoon. 

Good.  Now, finding your experience, recreating if you would like, your experience of evolving, of the being space and that flexibility of the evolving opening, that downpouring of luminous light as a way to open these energies. 

Good.  And since we have mentioned it, notice the way that that energy came back, the solidity with the wholeness of that energy. 

Good.  And how easy it is to travel in that space with your skills, with your sensitivity and senses. 

Very good.  Now, let us explore another step or phase of evolving.  We have experienced it.  We have done our opening into that experience of evolving as an inherent property of consciousness. 

Good.  Now, as you have played in this way with this evolving quality, notice that it is also an element that your consciousness, that the consciousness that is evolving that has this as this quality, that that evolving is in co-creation, as it were, with consciousness around it; consciousness that can find that level of the evolution, that can, to use your physicists’ word, observe, but it is really more engaged than that.

It is having noticed to be conscious of this potential for evolution, but not using into potential energy, but the evolution that is there, the drive that is there, to provide with, in our case in this example, this energy, to provide an energy that allows that opening, and “allows” is not quite the right word, that will provide fertile ground, as it were. 

It will create a part of that energy in terms of an opening, in terms of the resources that would be needed to bring about consciousness of this nature, whether it be energy or whether it be additional parts of consciousness that might be required, whether it be an avenue of expression, or an opportunity to create a new area or new concept, new thought forms.  And we are mixing levels here. 

So that as you play, as you look at your own experience, at you as a personality on the earth plane at the highest level that you can reach as a personality, vibrational energy bodies and just slightly higher, your consciousness at the light body level can provide that observation, can provide that resource, and provide an avenue of expression for consciousness that is evolving at that level. 

And often without that, without the solidity of experience behind it and without that observation, that evolution does not happen, or comes to little or no expression.  In the past seminars we have called this “engage this energy.”  At this level we can look at it in more depth. 

Good.  And now using this experience and recognizing the energy released from this coming to at least some beginning expression.  This evolution is immense.  At a personality level it would be energizing.  It would be all of the senses say that this is just right, this is the right thing, this is the right direction, this is beyond synchronicity. 

Very good.  Notice this, this solidity expanding out into this area now, be even more a solid energy. 

Just experience that, this energy that you have explored and been a part of creating, been a part of assembling, as it were, of creating consciousness in this way as individuals and as a group, notice the energy that is there for you; a stable, even in your terms, a solidity of the energy, a base that you could then push off of or use. 

So take a moment to just enjoy this and notice how you can use it to create openings for insights. 

And we will play more with this in the following journeys as a foundation, as an opening, as a recognition of the dynamic nature of these energies, and evolving with peace at this level becomes the very nature of the energy. 

Good. 

Good.  And now, just letting that go, being your experience, thanking your guide, and coming back smoothly and easily now at your own pace and rhythm. 

And with that, we bid you most pleasant journeys for now. 

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Program 03 LB973X_03T Duane: Talk

Duane:  I would like to explore another level of the evolving space and just see whether this assists us as a group, you as an individual, in holding that space or not. 

DaBen used a term several times, and some of you even commented to me that you noticed the use of that, and that is the word “downpouring.” 

The luminous body, your connection to it, we have been using to open energies.  And as we have opened what DaBen calls that flexibility in the being space, that sort of opening in that space, to open that even more, it is as though you can through your consciousness create a downpouring of that luminous light.  And when you are also aware of that being space and the opening that is there, it creates a great sense, for me anyway, of fulfillment, enjoyment. 

So let us explore how far we can go with that as a felt sense, as a visualization, as energy.  It seemed like it might be a step too far in the main seminar and a complication that was not necessarily needed.  And if it was not understood or it did not create a sensation, it might have created a great distraction, so we abandoned that.  But let us see if that is an opening. 

For me it was sort of the celebration of evolution.  Our evolving with peace was sort of a recognition of, okay, this is the space I have to be in, this is the state, or among the states, that I can recognize that this evolving, that a personality level if I am not paying attention may look like chaos, and I did not really want chaos.  But at the higher level it is, oh — using the wrong level term — but this makes sense.  This is what needs to happen.  If there is not the chaos I would not be paying attention to it.  It would go right by me. 

So let us see if it is the same sort of experience for you.  If it is, then we may use it.  If not, we will find another way to approach the energy. 

Okay, that is the next journey. 

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Program 04 LB973X_04J DaBen: Exploring down pouring of luminous light as a visualization and energy

DaBen:  Welcome. 

Again, we appreciate you playing in this way, and we are finding elements that we can introduce that assist you in solidifying and opening these spaces.  So let us look at this space. 

Connecting with your guide, and in this case asking your guide to assist you to translate any visualization or visual elements to a feeling, to a felt sense, so that you have at least a felt sense and a visualization if you can. 

So just notice these energies, then finding the light body, the light body cocoon, the being space, the richness that is here as you and as an individual and as a seed group and others have been opening this being space for a year or more in earth plane terms. 

In no time actually much stronger than that, for you have recognized its elements and played with them without being fully conscious of their nature.  It is out of that that you have been able to open that space of evolution to experience directly. 

So finding the being space now, your sense of that energy and luminous light, that opening, the flexibility. 

And let us look at that in a bit more detail, just as an aside, as it were, as you notice that, as that light from the luminous body opens things up, creates an opportunity for that opening to gain a great flexibility in the way in which it opens to and acquires energy from, and transforms or monitors or whatever other term might be appropriate for providing that opening with just the right amount and style of energy, much as you might recall the Ranthia does, sort of modulating that energy, that flexibility here. 

And then finding in that being space this evolution, this evolving, this inherent quality of consciousness, and expanding out to all consciousness.  The way that flexibility is monitoring, modulating that downpouring of light from the luminous body begins to open energies connected to, but not directly powered by, the Immense Space. 

So that you have a sense of that energy flowing through your consciousness, as though you are opening, as though you could visualize yourself as a full-fledged image of your physical being but as energy, with that light pouring down from above and out through the Fullonia, arms wide. 

That energy flowing into being, your consciousness being all consciousnesses, a scale and scope of your beingness, a celebration of the state that you have reached, an acknowledgement of that opening and the power that is here to open, to create, to be a co-creation. 

To have an energy sense of large areas of the scope of energy of being, of consciousness, and still able to focus in detail in just the right levels and areas that you have a chance of understanding, or reaching into, or opening, or shifting yourself, or bringing about, as we just explored in the last journey, bringing about an evolution. 

Now, to gain a more true and accurate sense of this energy, expand your awareness to the entire teardrop, to the seed group itself, and notice all of the consciousnesses here, all the unique consciousnesses and the skills brought to opening in this way. 

And the downpouring of the luminous body, and individual and collective arms thrown wide, letting this energy flow, being the conduit for this energy to flow, as a seed group and as individuals creating that flow, opening this energy.  

Good.  Noticing that shift, that bringing together of energies, and how those energies can pause for a while, and then with the slightest bit of additional attention or consciousness they take off again. 

So let us all focus on that taking off, that downpouring of the luminous body, the light, through your physical being, through the teardrop. 

Good.  And just letting that go, coming back to your own experience now, thanking all the members of the teardrop, acknowledging how their and your uniqueness added a breadth, made it so much easier to explore this energy. 

And back to your own experience now, slowly letting that go. 

Good.  And now, at your own pace and rhythm, letting yourself come back to the time and space of the earth plane. 

And with that, we bid you most pleasant journeys for now. 

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Program 05 LB973X_05T Duane: Talk

Duane:  As we have done the layers of light beings we have glossed over a couple key sets of beings that open the space for us, and the debate has been whether or not to add that richness versus complication to the experience.  And I am never quite sure where to come down on that.  As seed group you get to help me decide which way to come down.  DaBen does not really care, as long as whichever route we take adds to the depth of your experience. 

You have a pretty deep experience already with these beings, but if we go as planned with the next four seminars, and DaBen has basically insisted that we fill this in, that we make this level of connection — and that again is the wrong word — we make a level of connection with these beings that has energies parallel to a level of energy on the earth plane, that opens the earth plane up in a way that, or earth plane energy up in a way, even some human energy up in way that I find very illuminating and impressive that I had never even looked at before.

Okay.  So with those caveats and agreements, as you form the layers of light you may have noticed that when you do, the first one it is fairly solid.  The second one is less solid, the third and fourth a little more.  It is when you get up into six or seven that you have a distinct experience of that it takes on a character, takes on something that you can then play with. 

The first one is sort of by you drawing your attention.  And it not intention, but attention to do that, that you form a felt sense or a visualization.  And colors do not matter per se, but it is that layer, it is that particular kind of energy. 

There is a group of beings that help organize that.  For just a descriptive term, something that I have used, I have not worked with these beings in any detail other than to acknowledge them and thank them for bringing that organization there, and sort of bring together a whole series of nodes of energy.  So that is the first layer of consciousness that we could look at in that regard, and we will in this journey. 

And then there is another layer that happens at about five or six, where it is almost communal.  The organization is around a central figure.  And for me the visualization is they come through as a sort of V, an opening space, and then it fans out behind them in large numbers. 

And then once you’ve got that many layers of light that you can work with, then the layers take on a presence of their own; take on an ability through these beings to make energy, to create felt energy on the earth plane.  So let us see if we can look at those. 

Once you begin to then infuse those energies, infuse those layers with your consciousness and your felt sense, or your emotions, or your humanness expressed in that joy or in that moment or in what you are experiencing in that moment, the beauty of that experience. 

It does not have to be a joyous experience, it is just true to you.  It is an expression of what is true for your experience right then, so that this is there.  That then opens for the beings that we have been playing with. 

So let us see this initially. 

Now, just for the seed group, this was something that I was told to do in the home that I have built, or the ashram that I have built in Bend.  There are some 1800 year-old junipers on the land.  And so I call the place from ancient junipers to young basalt.  And the trees just started opening this energy.  I thought, well, okay.  And then it was like, okay, create this portal.  And then these beings started coming. 

It has developed for probably a year and a half now, and they are really opening energies of a special nature.  Well, all of you have felt that nature.  And DaBen has gotten so anxious to capitalize on this for opening for us, to get into the power of the earth plane energy to open these spaces, that he really wants to do the next course soon; not April, sooner.  But April is our time. 

Just notice these beings and the opening.  We may never play with them again because they are happy to assist us however, but just notice.  It might be of value to make other people aware of them, or maybe not. 

When I first started playing with them with Sanaya, Sanaya loves that second set of beings.  She could take or leave the third set that we have been playing with, but it just spoke to her. 

So play.  Look at that. 

I think your challenge as an individual and as a seed group will be to slow down enough to see them, because we have gone pretty quickly through that, so we will try to slow that down, try to call them out, try to back up.  Although once you get that flow started it is kind of hard to back into the elements because it is already created. 

So let us just play with that, see where we go. 

Okay, get comfortable for a journey. 

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Program 06 LB973X_06J DaBen: Exploring the beings that create the layers of light for you

DaBen:  Welcome. 

It is our pleasure and honor to play with you in these ways that you are willing to explore, to be the seed, or to recognize when the ground is not fertile. 

So let us explore now. 

Good.  And connecting with your guide, and asking your guide to assist you in slowing down so that you notice more in detail, slowing the flow of energy down so that you can notice the way the various energies come together, combine to create. 

So begin by just looking at that first layer of light, however you experience it.  And notice that you are organizing your consciousness in such a way that you can get that as a felt sense or a visualization, and that your skills with the light body have drawn to you beings that appear, that are drawn to, that just appear. 

No radiance terms in these beings, no distance to traverse, no space.  When you create a certain energy it draws to it instantly like energy, like these beings. 

And notice that as you do that there are nodes, as it were.  That these beings are organizing these nodes in such a way that in this instant, in earth plane time or no time in your experience of the earth plane, there begins to be this layer of light.  However you might experience it or visualize it, there begins to be that opening, creations of energy nodes that organizes your experience. 

And just notice that those nodes need to be very dynamic.  That these beings, very small, organizing this energy, shifting these patterns and frequencies in your experience at the level of the light body and below, in such a way that a layer begins to appear; a layer that will conduct, as it were, light. 

And notice that the nodes shift in their relation to one another.  Sometimes it might look very much like a three-dimensional gridwork in a limited range, and other times it may look like a random pattern, and it may move very slowly or very quickly.  It may materialize as though it were not there before, but it is now.  It is beyond radiance level, beyond resonance level. 

Good.  And now, slowly begin to visualize or create a felt sense of a second layer of light, a different color perhaps, a distinct layer, distinct qualities of light. 

Notice that these node beings begin to organize that as well, but it is less distinct this time, less organized. 

And visualize now more a felt sense, a third layer of light.  And these beings make almost a copy of the second layer, and the fourth almost another copy, and the fifth, begins to bring about a level of energy that attracts other beings, as it were. 

And these node beings then have created a place, an organization of energy, and by the time you get to the next layer that organization of energy is sufficient for these next beings to come and create that distinct structure.  That there will be a color played, and as you would organize it a light show can begin. 

And these beings, as though there were a flow of beings that you might in your terms of earth plane view as sort of a queen bee, or a communal organization about a queen.  And behind are other energies, other beings, in sort of a V-shaped organizing coming about.  And they come in the hundreds of thousands, taking those nodes and organizing them, making them distinct by their spacing, by their style. 

There may not be a pattern that you could, if you were to study, be able to easily recognize.  A whole variety of patterns capturing a certain quality of light that is there.  Capturing it and holding it so that it takes on a distinct nature. 

You might at first think that these layers are like a rainbow, a prism of white light, but each is distinct pattern, a type almost of consciousness, a layering of emotional levels perhaps or emotional shadings, if you were to relate it to your consciousness, distinct light, distinct qualities. 

And as these form you can begin to play a light show and add your own experience in that moment, as pure an experience as you can express, playing this light show like a symphony of light. 

And these beings, once this light is captured, as it were, and organized, these beings leave.  Their job is done.  And the construction that they have made, if that is the right term, will dissipate as soon as your attention is off it for a period of energy terms.  You could translate it as time, but it is really energy levels or energy qualities. 

But as you play this light show of your experience, and the beings that we have been playing with that have been so instructive, that create among many other things the harmonics to our experience so that we might experience them even more clearly, more beautifully, with a greater depth and breadth than we were capable of initially. 

And having created this energy, you can then by your attention create more and more octaves, as it were, of this light where the structure is set and the patterns form naturally. 

Good.  And now, you can see yet another example in a small enough scale perhaps for you to experience the levels of expression of consciousness from those initial node beings, to the beings that create structures that capture distinct qualities of light, to the beings that are able to respond to that and come into your presence, into the earth plane energies through your opening that portal, as it were. 

Now, with that background, that insight, notice the layers of consciousness here and the depth of this consciousness, an appreciation perhaps of this layering of consciousness, one to the next to the next, much as you are layered by vast consciousnesses from every direction, from higher orders of consciousness to low orders of consciousness. 

But remember, consciousness is any degree of order.  And attempts to draw hierarchies and scales, which humans are wont to do, becomes very difficult because the very nature of evolution is not a linear sort of thing.  It is not a hierarchical sort of thing.  As you have experienced in your experiencing the dynamic nature of evolution, it is not a hierarchy. 

It is a variety of levels of consciousness discovering other consciousness, and as we have mentioned in a previous journey, by that observation creating an avenue for that evolution to take place, to acquire an expression, to acquire a consciousness. 

So that you have this constant mixing of levels that the human mind wants to assign, a constant bringing together, combining, opening, and the wonder and marvel that is created in such a way. 

So let us just explore this now. 

And the openings that these energies have created and will create have great potential to bring you to an experience where you are a part of that creation, and you are a co-creator, and your consciousness can carry you to a whole variety of levels more and more as you join other entities, other beings, at all of these levels and beyond as you gain your sensitivity and skills, that you can begin to recognize the wonderful potentials of energy that is there for you to discover, and indeed in your own unique way, to create. 

Good.  And finding your unique energy in that now, and strengthening your ability to sense that unique energy in all of this consciousness and the role that you have to play, are expected to play, essential that you play in these energies. 

Good.  Now, just letting that go, thanking these beings, the layers of light beings, and even though they have created and gone, the node beings and those beings that create the structures that capture this light. 

And find joy and celebration in the insights that await you, that you have had, that await you in your presence on the earth plane. 

And thanking your guide, and smoothly and easily coming back now to the time and space of the earth plane. 

And with that, we bid you most pleasant journeys for now. 

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Program 07 LB973X_07T Duane: Talk

Duane:  Okay.  Let us look in this next journey at some of the ways the energies are, not the way our concepts say they are, so I am struggling with words. 

In the last journey during the journey DaBen explained some of the ways in which evolving happens.  It is not a linear process, it is not organized hierarchically, all of that. 

Thus when we look at the energies that we have played with in the main seminar and we play with those energies, DaBen sort of finessed his way into where you look at the top of that energy you will find a sort of different energy.  That is the evolving that is there. 

Well, you have a deeper picture of that now, so let us experiment.  Let us see if we can get an even deeper picture of that energy.  We will see if we can get DaBen to explain even more of that element or those elements. 

It is a good space, it is a fun space, but I probably will not always be able to translate into concepts that make immediate intellectual sense to you.  But experientially, if you are staying with that level, you will gain the insights.  But you may have trouble in translating it into a concept. 

Our human minds are very good at organizing hierarchy and finding patterns.  But at a certain point if those patterns are too intricate, the human mind shuts down, it cannot handle it, it goes on overload or something, and looks for, okay, that is too complicated, I am going to find simpler. 

Well, simpler is distorted.  It may work for a while, but you have got to fill in.  So we will see if we can get it as energy, and I will do my best to translate. 

Okay, let us explore evolving.  And if this is something that we as a seed group can hold the energy for, it should make the discovery group tomorrow really interesting.  And by really interesting, I mean levels that we can just jump to.  Forget the steps, just go there. 

After a few fragilities last seminar I have been as careful as I can be to step into things.  So if we decide to go for it, and this is just on the seed group, if we decide to go for it tomorrow, the other discovery group members may find that, oh, it was such beautiful order out there, and this is really chaotic.  That makes people fragile, so we may have a little of that. 

Okay, get comfortable for a journey. 

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Program 08 LB973X_08J DaBen: Evolving, the elements and details with explanations

DaBen:  Welcome. 

Well, let us again see where we can go, to the marvelous energies that you are able to sense and open to and hold the vibration of.  So let us explore. 

Connecting with your guide, creating that opportunity for your guide to really show you an experience of this energy of evolving. 

Moving to the light body, the light body cocoon, and then the being space, and as we have already played, that downpouring of light of the luminous light, into that flexibility, that opening of the being space. 

And even your sense of the visualization that we played with of that light coming through you, through your arms open and flowing out of the area perhaps around the Fullonia, as a part of this flow of energy, of this evolving with peace, and how dynamic and ever-changing it is. 

Good.  And now, let us find that energy, this evolving, as a part of being, as a part of consciousness.  And begin with all consciousness and then we will focus in a little finer detail. 

But begin with your experience of what you can experience of that infinity of consciousness, infinity of layers, of levels, and evolving as an aspect, sort of a surface layer, as it were. 

Begin to look at that interface between evolving as a quality, as an innate part of consciousness, that you are sort of noticing that it is a release of pressure almost.  That is a term that you could understand in a physical way with your experience of matter on the earth plane. 

It is as though the activity and the dynamics of consciousness are such that it is creating a pressure that is contained within the bounds of that energy surrounding consciousness.  And it would be tempting but far inaccurate to think of it as unconscious.  It is just an area that the consciousness that you are made up of has not reached yet, but the pressure to add, to break into new areas, to overcome that boundary, is large. 

And when enough consciousness collects around a certain level or certain layer, that surface tension is broken, as it were, and consciousness emerges at the surface. 

And if observed in the right way, given, for lack of a better term, fertile ground, encouraged, new consciousness is formed, becomes connected, a part of that consciousness that was there.  But it is incorporated in the energy that it burst into, so that this consciousness has absorbed or overcome or added order to a new area.  It may be order to an area that was already ordered but to a lesser degree. 

So begin to look at it in that way.  And consciousness thus is preserved.  That any breakthrough that we might refer to in human terms, that any breakthrough in this regard is adding a layer of consciousness.  And once that is there, once it has reached a level of nurturing or resources, it cannot be lost.  It requires but an observation, attention, and all of its connections are then readily available. 

Good. 

Very good.  Just notice the energy in the room, in the teardrop, to enhance your energy and experience of the energy behind this, behind evolving, a consciousness upon consciousness, a dynamic expression, evolving. 

And seeing this or experiencing this or having a sense of these as beginning concepts, for they are more involved than this, but these are not very distorted at this level.  These concepts open, or might serve to open, your sense of being, your sense of value on the earth plane, your sense of enjoyment of the process of experiencing life force, this aspect of life force.

Good.  And with that now, we appreciate you playing in this way, and we look forward to more time in the same space in earth plane terms. 

And with that, coming back smoothly and easily, we mean that, smoothly and easily, assembling your presence on the earth plane again to something familiar to you.

And with that, we bid you most pleasant journeys for now. 

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