Seminar Journeys (J) and Talks (T)
Directory of Discovery Group Programs
Program 01 LB973Y_01T Duane: Talk and Welcome
Program 02 LB973Y_02J DaBen: Opening the space for evolving as whole group
Program 03 LB973Y_03T Duane: Talk
Program 04 LB973Y_04J DaBen: Using aspect selves or lifetimes to experience other parts of evolving, with peace
Program 05 LB973Y_05T Duane: Talk
Program 06 LB973Y_06J DaBen: Luminous light down pouring, expanding to allow more flow than your consciousness can accommodate
Program 07 LB973Y_07T Duane: Talk
Program 08 LB973Y_08J DaBen: Evolving in open space, no space, no time, senses evolving in response
Program 09 LB973Y_09T Duane: Talk
Program 10 LB973Y_10J DaBen: Using spanning from light body to personality levels to notice evolving details
Program 11 LB973Y_11T Duane: Talk
Program 12 LB973Y_12J DaBen: Evolving as natural part of the dynamic of the being space, no time realization
Program 13 LB973Y_13T Duane: Talk
Program 14 LB973Y_14J DaBen: Playing a light show of your experience with and for the layers of light beings
Program 15 LB973Y_15T Duane: Talk
Program 16 LB973Y_16J DaBen: Evolving with peace, experiences across levels and natures, dynamic all
Program 17 LB973Y_17T Duane: Talk
Program 18 LB973Y_18J DaBen: Exploring groups energy in evolving with peace
Program 01 LB973Y_01T Duane: Talk and Welcome
Duane: Good morning. It is good to see all of you again in person. That is great.
If you have been following the energies that we are going to be exploring as DaBen has been setting them up, we have got some really nice, far-out spaces to explore, integrating some things, and we are looking at really bringing some of our consciousness about those light body energies into a different level of energy on the earth plane that for me has really opened up some energy insights anyway into earth plane, so we have got some fun exploring.
As we do this exploring in the main seminar, and even in the field of play seminar after, we noticed last time a little bit of potential for fragility after coming back from these spaces. Just take time to come back slowly.
After you have been out and you start seeing some of these energies and experiencing energies of the light body and that pattern, and then some energies closer to earth plane or more in the way the earth plane energy moves, some of us get a little shocked at coming back to ordinary reality.
And so just take time to come back and recognize that you can move easily between those spaces, and that most of what happens in terms of fragility in personality level on the earth plane is really just about communicating on the earth plane. It does not have a great deal of importance in and of itself.
Okay. Just a few announcements. I think that as we have been playing in the last four or five seminars as discovery group that we have been setting the energy for the main seminar, but we have been doing such a good job that I think that the beings that are assisting us and the work that we will be doing during the main seminar, you as discovery group will be doing during the main seminar, we probably will not have another early morning meeting. We will just have the Monday discovery group rather than meeting this early morning as well.
I thought you would be happy at sleeping in.
Okay. I think that is probably all we need. We are going to be working with a set of beings in the main seminar. We will not do an introduction here. I want to work on spaces here with the discovery group that will probably go into a next series of seminars. The next series of seminars will probably be four seminars, and we will explore in depth looking at the skill, the significant skills and sensitivities that you have created in the light body energies to look back at some of earth plane energies from that higher perspective, so we look in depth.
I think that will really help in field of play and sort of give you a way in which to fill in some of your experiences on the earth plane, make that earth plane experience richer, and then give you an energy foundation from the earth plane to play in the light body. For me it has been a real back and forth so that it starts all working together, so we will begin that this time.
Okay. Again, more than half of the people taking the seminar are remote, and so include them. We will probably do some more group work, so include them in making the energy bigger, so you have a bigger experience in that regard.
As just a hint of what we will do in the main seminar, the spaces, there are several stages to it, and we will be taking the being space and then using luminous light to expand as we did in the becoming, so the being and then becoming luminous light.
And then this is looking at evolving. DaBen’s title hopefully by the time you get to the second day will make perfect sense to you; evolving with peace. So that you are noticing how dynamic everything is, how there is a flow to it, noticing that flow at a variety of levels. Joining that flow in two senses this time; both surrendering, which we’ve played with in the past, and then also really anticipating your energy through no time and joining it in that way, so that you are connected.
One of the things that I would encourage you again to do as we do these journeys is that the spaces are so much easier to experience if you play really big. Get your ability to be aware of noticing the energies so that you are really stretched, so you are noticing those energies and they are either big in scale or big in time or that they have challenged you to hold all of the things that are happening in your awareness, whether it’s looking in more depth at them. It gets much easier if you play that way, so I will probably remind all of us as we do them.
Okay. Let us find the discovery group, those taking it remotely, and then the main group, holding that as energy, and then DaBen is just going to build from the being space and out and into this, which as we get deeper in it we will probably call the evolving space, so that you experience that.
Okay, I think we are ready, so get comfortable for a journey.
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Program 02 LB973Y_02J DaBen: Opening the space for evolving as whole group
DaBen: Welcome. Join us as we explore here, as we really move into these energies. That as you become these energies, as you became luminous light, as you explore that depth, allow yourself to become such a part of those energies that for the short period of the journey or parts of the journey that you no longer distinguish, or care to distinguish where you as your individuality on the earth plane stops in its nature and becomes a larger energy that you are in.
The consciousness that you are in and of, and however you identify that as consciousness, as the being, or as earth plane energy, or the vast consciousnesses of your cells and matter, or the vast consciousnesses of the matter of the earth plane and connections to the solar system, and connections to the stars in the galaxy and beyond, consciousnesses all; vast, and the consciousness that you are a part of on the earth plane, and indeed beyond, at this level of consciousness, at this definition of where your ability to observe extends.
Good. And now beginning to fill that in.
Connecting with your guide now, and asking your guide to assist you in noticing places and details that you can be of more consciousness, expand your consciousness, or just a fleeting notice perhaps.
And then finding the Renawre cocoon and opening this as a foundation of your experiences, a place to let the energy flow, to engage your presence on the earth plane, but not limited to the normal way in which you limit your observations.
Expanding out into all the various areas that you have a consciousness or share a consciousness or have extended out to, and then finding the light body, the light body cocoon.
Good. Extending that out now, finding the energy of the discovery group, those that are here and those that will be listening to these journeys in a while or a long while, maybe even you listening again, and just hold that space and notice how expanding that group is to your ability to be conscious, to hold these energies.
And being now, just follow this energy of the being space, expanding your consciousness out with the being space.
Following these shifts now, out more deeply into luminous light, becoming that light, opening, adding a quality of light, radiating light from each area of your consciousness now, opening that space that you can experience it more fully, becoming this light, becoming the experience and the ability to experience the being space.
Good. Opening now to these energies so that you notice the patterns and flows between these areas that are your experience, the way in which you experience moving from one moment to the next, from one area of experience to another, to another; a pattern, a flow. Even here the potential, if experienced in a conscious manner, an evolution, a flow, the potential, bringing that potential more and more to your ability to experience.
Even if it just out of reach, the potential that is there, the movement, if that is right term, of these energies, of your experience, toward that; that opening, that almost opening, that natural flow, that bringing to your awareness a next part of the energy.
Including now the entire group of the discovery group as an energy, as a character in its own, and then the main seminar, and opening to all the places that this evolving with peace will take you and the larger group.
Following this energy now to the next level.
Becoming that light now, that experience, as deeply as you can.
Very good. Now with that, as a beginning space for this seminar, opening to all the people that will be connected to this energy, either through taking this series of journeys or through some of the more direct openings of this energy.
Expanding out on that, on your experience, opening your ability to experience, sensing these energies more deeply and fully.
Good. And now just letting that go, thanking your guide.
Good. And coming back now at your own pace and rhythm to the time and space of the earth plane, holding the qualities of energy that you have experienced in a way that enhances your ability to experience and enjoy the energies of the earth plane.
And with that, coming back smoothly and easily, with that we bid you most pleasant journeys for now.
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Program 03 LB973Y_03T Duane: Talk
Duane: Okay. As discovery group we are going to go more completely or fully into some of the spaces that we have worked with, look at evolving in some additional aspects than what we played with, get more energy around where our experience can take us as we get deeper into evolving, and look at evolving with peace.
We already looked at its dynamic nature, and we will see if we can explore that by looking at levels. So we are going to go more deeply into that.
Those of you who are looking at field of play tomorrow and Wednesday, use these skills, although we probably will not call them out, use as high as you have been able to reach in this evolving experience, evolving with peace, these spaces, so that we have that.
And some of what we will do will be to just play with some additional images, or not images, but ways of experiencing visually felt sense some of the places that we did not have time or chose to go in the main seminar, so we have a lot there.
And any questions you have at the breaks about these experiences, I would welcome those.
Okay, I think that is all we need for a journey. We are going to look at the evolving space, its depth in this next journey, more complete involvement of your experience.
Okay, get comfortable for a journey.
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Program 04 LB973Y_04J DaBen: Using aspect selves or lifetimes to experience other parts of evolving, with peace
DaBen: Welcome.
Consciousness evolving, you as an expression of consciousness, you as consciousness at a whole variety of levels, in a whole variety of places even, if that is the right term, at the same level.
And as we have opened these spaces, as you have participated and assisted in opening these spaces, we have often played with expanding your consciousness out beyond the normal thought forms of the earth plane, to notice, to pay attention to the connections, the commonalities of energy, indeed your presence in many levels and many places on certain levels.
So as you play with evolving in this and following journeys, recall as many of your experiences as you can of these expanded levels and expanded consciousnesses on other levels that you really can identify as the you in your consciousness.
And as we look at evolving we are going to discover that a useful perspective will be one of no time that we have explored in depth as we have looked at earlier journeys before the being space and in depth with the being space; no time.
Good. And for the first part of this journey, pick either a no time perspective and look at earth life or other planes in which you can identify at least at an energy level. That is all that is necessary; an energy, a part of your being, the being space. In the earth plane it would be other lifetimes experienced through no time. Or to pick expanded consciousnesses like aspect selves.
And notice that in either case there is an evolution going on, a natural part of consciousness. And with that evolution then it is not a linear or hierarchical sort of thing. Your aspect selves are evolving as well, and in your overarching consciousness you can learn from and must begin to incorporate that series of evolutions and consciousness.
Just as in an energy way you can with past lives, or even future lives, the consciousness evolving. It just becomes a part of the energy that you can identify, at least in a general way, as you in no time in all of the forms it might take, in all of the levels of consciousness it might take.
And as you incorporate that, you are, so to speak, coming to the realization that part of consciousness, the dynamic nature of consciousness is to incorporate, to integrate, to expand consciousness to include this evolving, this evolved, so that it becomes just an easy part of the consciousness that you are now, or within the context of time that you are experiencing.
Noticing that holding this experience of this evolving, either other lifetimes through no time or aspect selves through expanded awareness of energy that is easily experienced as you, that those boundaries and edges begin to blur and soften.
Good. Now, with those boundaries softened, those perspectives softened, notice how evolving, how consciousness as you experienced it and as you experience it in this expanded way, lifetimes or aspect selves, notice how the contribution of each of those aspect selves or each of those lifetimes as observers for you facilitates in some way a coming together of that evolution, making it possible for that evolution, that fruition of consciousness evolving.
That there is this, for lack of a better term, this is not a very precise term, there is an interdependence. A part of the evolving process is interdependent upon the consciousness that is closest, that is in no-space relationship to you, and what could be closer than your consciousness.
And then all of the environment, the connections, for lack of a better term, the connections that are there that you can then expand out on, that this evolving consciousness and its earliest expression opens the space for additional awareness and consciousness.
So using evolving now as a way to gain greater consciousness of what you are already conscious of. To gain an insight, and that is a very limited term, but an insight into the nature of this consciousness that has evolving as an inherent quality, that is dynamic.
Good. Now, just letting that go, being your experience, and in noticing your experience notice how soft, to use an expanded term, how soft the edges of your experience are between one moment of awareness to the next, to the qualities of the experience itself.
Now, just letting all of that go, thanking your guide, and coming back smoothly and easily to the time and space of the earth plane.
And with that, we bid you most pleasant journeys for now.
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Program 05 LB973Y_05T Duane: Talk
Duane: In this next journey let us look at more of the energy or strength or power of evolving and of that imagery that we used of luminous light coming down into your experience, into your experience of the being space, so that you have that perhaps additional.
We will use a visualization, DaBen will use a visualization, a sort of downpouring of light, and we will look at other aspects of that.
The visualization itself is not important. The sense of energy overflowing, energy in quantities beyond your capacity to easily handle and what strategies you might use to allow that energy to flow even though it is larger than you can handle per se at this point in your consciousness, so that we sort of stretch ourselves there.
Okay, I think that is all we need, so enjoy the space. Get comfortable for a journey.
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Program 06 LB973Y_06J DaBen: Luminous light down pouring, expanding to allow more flow than your consciousness can accommodate
DaBen: Welcome.
Connecting with your guide now, and asking your guide to assist you in bringing a part of your experience from the last journey to your experience now, as you move to the light body, the light body cocoon.
Good. And with this space, with these soft edges in the boundaries, begin to look at that luminous light coming into the being space, that flexibility of the being space to accommodate, to open to this luminous light.
You are expanding your experience of the being space, of being, being consciousness, being all consciousness that you can hold in your ability as softly, as you are holding as large a volume, so to speak, as you can hold.
And this light, luminous light from the luminous body coming down through your beingness.
You might begin to experience that as light flowing into your being, into your presence. And if that presence were a physical body it might be coming in through the top of the head. And to make it easier to have all that light, all this luminous light pouring through, just spread your arms wide and let it flow out of your chest as you open.
And it flows into the being space, an openness, so that you have a sense of this flow of energy. And for a while you can handle that entire flow until the being space has been opening more and more for this flow of light, this consciousness in the form of this luminous body.
And as your consciousness becomes overwhelmed, as it were, in the sense of handling consciousness of this nature, but it continues to flow because you opened that flow, how do you let that flow continue into being, into your contribution to being?
That you have opened that flow and it is beyond your consciousness at this moment to handle that degree of light. How can you continue to let this flow? What ways can find to accommodate that flow beyond your ability to be conscious?
You can begin to evolve, but the flow is faster than you can evolve. And you are experiencing this light and this desire, drive to evolve, handling that light. Finding a way to be immersed in that light fully and completely as you were when we first explored the luminous body. And here you are looking at being, the being space, your consciousness in all of its aspects in no time with all of its connections and being of and created by.
Letting your experience evolve with this now, so that your experience is also a part of this handling, as it were, this energy.
Good. As you have found ways to accommodate that flow, recognize the nature of this energy, and energy and consciousness, and the light and consciousness.
Good. Just noticing this experience, the expansion that you have created, the opening that this immersion in luminous light has brought about for you and that you have opened to, that your being in this being space and evolving has brought you to an experience of this openness, this peace, dynamic peace, that we will look at in even more detail.
Just notice as much as you can about this sense of peace from the overflow of light, of your accommodating that.
Good. And now, just letting that go, thanking your guide, and smoothly and easily coming back to the time and space of the earth plane.
And with that, we bid you most pleasant journeys for now.
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Program 07 LB973Y_07T Duane: Talk
Duane: For most of you your personalities are not reflecting fully the depth of the space that you are getting in the journeys. That is typical because language really restricts our ability to describe this. And it is not just the words, it is that there are no concepts for much of what we are getting into, much of what we are exploring. So as we look at these spaces, we are constantly expanding and evolving.
Many of you probably recognize that DaBen is doing something he has done in other ways in the past. He is attempting to get you beyond any thought limits, any mind limits, even experiential limits, to the spaces, so that it is beyond what you have experienced before, opening that space.
Okay. We have a new discovery group member, Rameria. Let us welcome her.
As usual, most of the discovery group is taking it remotely, which is perfectly fine. As you include the discovery group in any of our group things that we do, be sure to include the remotes as well, so that you have a larger range of consciousnesses and time and space and all of that to expand into.
Okay. This next journey we are going to look again at evolving, at yet another experience we can explore and begin to incorporate into our experience of evolving, so that we have that as a part of our tools or skills to be in these spaces.
Be inventive here. Much as the last journey was sort of pushing you beyond your comfort level in some of these spaces, be inventive with how you respond to evolving that DaBen is going to show you in this journey.
Okay, I think that is all we need, so get comfortable for a journey.
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Program 08 LB973Y_08J DaBen: Evolving in open space, no space, no time, senses evolving in response
DaBen: Welcome.
It is our pleasure to watch, as it were, each of you opening those spaces, moving to these levels of experience.
Good. Connecting with your guide now, and moving to the light body.
And recognize the wonder that you have created in terms of your ability and skills with the energy at the level of the light body, and how those skills translate to other energies, your sensitivity to these energies, the new senses that you have created to experience these space.
That in itself is evolving to meet a desire or a need to be able to experience these energies, a desire to grow, that you have chosen to expand into these energies and to be able to sense them.
And to notice that that process of evolving in much of the ability to sense these energies has occurred without your consciously doing it. You had a desire to sense these energies, to see, to experience, to have a felt sense of these energies. Something was driving you to open to this experience, was drawing you.
At an earth plane higher personality level those are fine terms; driven, being drawn. From the being space, from that opening of light moving into and your flexibility in opening to that space, drawing and being driven might be better replaced with words that are more complex.
That as the flow of consciousness develops, the pressure, as it were, of the consciousness to expand in a whole variety of ways and processes moved out into an opening, a place that you were not yet conscious.
So let us look now at evolving at this level, a level of the light body and above. So that the consciousness you are acquiring evolves to fulfill, to open, to respond to that pressure that the consciousness that you have expanded into is now creating to expand to more areas, and repeating again at its own pace and rhythm; a pace and rhythm that matches the environment of the consciousness that it is in.
If it is physical vast consciousnesses, that rhythm is different than at a mind or mental level, a thought form sort of level, but not thoughts themselves, but the level that opens to the process of thoughts. And that is different from the level you are now using to experience this level of the light body, the senses that you have developed for the subtle distinctions of this energy.
Follow these shifts now. Let us go more deeply into this experience, into this opening so that we can explore what is really the energy behind evolving as an inherent quality of consciousness.
And aware that for now, and perhaps always because of its very nature, we will not be able to define consciousness in many ways, certainly not in an intellectually pleasing way. But that you have developed a sense to experience being and the being space from your presence and your beingness. You are expanding out on that.
Good. And evolving as the nature of consciousness, as a process of ordering, creating a higher degree of order, that in many ways anticipating a degree of order that is being created elsewhere in consciousness.
Let us develop an even broader sense of evolving and the interconnections, the no space, like drawing like, and with evolving that like drawing like, that space is in motion, a constant sort of motion, as evolving creates a change, a dynamic increase in consciousness.
That consciousness has qualities that are different than, or in addition to, or maybe entirely new qualities that shifts the space, the like attracting like of space, of this space.
This evolving is constantly shifting; space, no space, space, time as expressions, no time, a dance of sorts, a dance that you can observe and be a part of with your being space and being conscious.
Now, just being in that space, the openings that are possible here become large in number, and your ability to sense these energies will increase as you are drawn to be a part of this energy.
Good. And now, just letting that go, thanking your guide, being your experience, recognizing all of the possibilities, or at least an opening of that large number of possibilities, and your ability to sense these energies and evolving ability to sense these energies.
Good. And now, at your own pace and rhythm, being your experience and coming back to the time and space of the earth plane.
And with that, we bid you most pleasant journeys for now
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Program 09 LB973Y_09T Duane: Talk
Duane: All right. We are going to look at a little more energy around finding expressions to that evolving. We will do a lot more of this tomorrow and Wednesday, but just a little bit from this level, so that as discovery group you will have an insight into what you could do in the field of play seminar.
We will not call it out there because this will be a little bit of a distraction probably from the level that we will work with there. But use this as a skill, as a tool, to notice that opportunity in this energy.
Okay, I think that is all we need. DaBen will try to keep you right on the edge of where your mind can hold this.
Okay, get comfortable for a journey.
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Program 10 LB973Y_10J DaBen: Using spanning from light body to personality levels to notice evolving details
DaBen: Welcome.
Good. And now, looking even more deeply into your experience right at this moment, what are you able to sense about your experience, your ability to experience in more detail as you move to the light body and connect with your guide. What is the nature of that transition of experience?
Good. Now, let us span from the light body to a higher personality level, holding each energy distinct, and look at an area that you feel you are evolving or on the verge of new insights or new ways of being or thinking. This may be areas that you have been looking at or wanting more insights.
And keeping this span distinct from the light body to the higher personality.
Good. And now, looking at that area at higher personality both as a description in language or a strong sense, and at the light body level of the being space, and translating that energy of the being space to the higher personality and being conscious, and being conscious of being conscious at both levels now.
And notice how as you experience that flexibility at the light body level, that opening of the being space, that you can create a similar sort of experience appropriate to the higher personality level. And in so doing you are creating an opening for the space that you have been looking at that the pressure has built to express in a new way, to express in a completely different way, to express a new way of experiencing.
Deeper and deeper into the details of your experience now at both levels, at the light body level, of evolving here, the being space, and the higher personality level, the details of your insights or your senses, the inventiveness of your thoughts.
Has this area that you started with changed in some way? Has it transformed to something in a peculiar way related to where you started? At first seemingly not solidly connected, but maybe at an energy sense an integral part of your opening, of your evolving, a part of the puzzle, as it were.
So that as you are noticing this consciousness evolving, being, that your sense of peace as this begins its process of evolving and unfolding can come from both a sense of flow in the personality level and possibly a synchronous sort of unfoldment at the personality level of evolving energies at a higher level; evolving energies sensed and condensed, as it were, from the earth plane or higher consciousness, subtle energies.
Now, just letting that personality level go. You may have gotten some insights that are well-formed, as it were, enough to represent an expression, or the beginning of expression of this consciousness.
And coming to the light body, the being space, the openings there, and just notice your experience here.
Good. And just letting that go now, thanking your guide, and smoothly and easily coming back to the time and space of the earth plane, at your own pace and rhythm.
And with that, we bid you most pleasant journeys for now.
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Program 11 LB973Y_11T Duane: Talk
Duane: Okay. I may have been making some assumptions about where you were at in error.
One of the goals, well always a goal, but certainly this discovery group, as we do the last class on evolving with peace of the being space, and the being space being so significant as a launching point for our ability to experience and to really be out there in our experience.
I mentioned just briefly, and DaBen has done a small amount in some of the journeys, how many of you are having a little bit of a struggle, even at a personality level, in that paradox of sequential time and no time, particularly the idea that evolving involves change and so there has to be timing happening for there to be change, and how can it be in no time? How many of you are still struggling with that?
How many people cannot dismiss it that easily?
Okay. Then let us look at that. And that explains a little bit. We did an extra journey this morning because I could not quite understand how you were struggling with letting go, because you had been doing so well with it, okay, we are moving into this next space.
And what we were doing this morning involved bringing together personality, looking at some of the concepts, bringing some of these ideas and so on. And that brings us right up to, well, okay, evolving is change.
At least that is what our minds tell us. Even though DaBen has only occasionally used that word “change,” he almost always uses the word “dynamic.” But if you let your left brain get too carried away with the meaning of dynamic, then that has also got change. It is something that happens that is different from time A to time B, and your mind is right back into sequencing time.
Okay. So let us look at conceptually a way you might deal with that. And then we will do a journey, the next journey, but we will emphasize this sort of evolving no time thing, maybe a way to break through that.
Let us play with the tricks of memory. This might be a way to get you to be a little more convinced that sequential time is not what you really think it is.
Recall a time in which you remembered something and you were sure that it was that way. It does not even need to be that long ago. You are just sure by some memory, maybe habit or whatever, that this event occurred. And yet right in front of your eyes it has not. It was a false memory. You remembered it wrong or something, in some case that your memory did not tell you the truth.
Or perhaps another thing that you have had happen, I am sure all of you have, is you drive a route that you are reasonably familiar with and you know it takes half an hour, but only 20 minutes have gone by. So what happened to the other 10 minutes?
Just notice that our memory is telling us what sequential time is when it is not what our memory says it is. Do we say, well, it is just our memory is screwy, or that time does not really work the way we think it does?
And so we have a choice there, a perspective in which to really look at that, to examine that.
Evolving, the very first day of the main seminar at the first break we were talking about this sequential time and no time, and how evolving had an equivalent of evolving being change and just evolving, it is that way.
Now, let me ask this as a question. Is the concept or the idea that in no time if things change, everything changes, so that it has never been any other way, is that something that you can hold at a left brain, personality sort of grasp that?
You can, most of you? Okay.
Now, it is a small step then to say that this memory has changed, what you thought was sequential time changed. So no time, and there is the everything is different.
As we look at evolving, as we look at that, once that evolution has happened, can you hold it as everything else has changed to accommodate that, as though it never was any different? So we are really just down to the period of time it took for the change to happen.
Now, if you did not observe that time, would you ever know that there was ever any change? Well, what does your personality say? That is what we are attempting to do, is to get the left brain to hold that paradox without saying, no, it is one or the other. We are trying to get the left brain to say, okay, it can be both.
A popular analogy in these sorts of discussions is light and the physics concept of light. It is a wave, it is a particle, no it is a wave, it is particle. Well, what if it is both? What if it is neither? What if it’s quantum? And then it is just dependent upon your observing it. If you did not observe that, then you do not know, you have no basis for sequence in time.
Now, DaBen in our looking at that in the main seminar, he referred a couple times in a very hinting way that some consciousness observing the evolving was a key part of that evolving, and that was an integral part of it happening and connecting and being out in this space.
So we are looking at that. If you observe it after the, quote, “event” has happened, was it ever any other way? See if you can make peace with your mind to get that to allow the potential for both.
If your mind gives you a choice, then choose the no time. And when you need sequential time to cope on the earth plane, it will pop right back to sequential time. It is very good at that. It has been trained your entire lifetime to do that. So just notice how you play there.
Okay. Now, we will use that as sort of an introduction, but the next stage that we did not do in the main seminar for evolving is to really get that this dynamic process is happening everywhere on whatever consciousnesses’ terms you are able to imagine or experience or be open to.
Our minds would regard that much evolution as chaos, but to find a way to have it all fit together as a communication happening, a level of, if we use a radiance term, connection.
But it mostly could be looked at as this evolution in a no time parallel, so that it has always been that way. There is pressure for it to be different, but it has always been that way. And now it has also always been that way. You are in that mode.
Another thing just occurred to me as we look. If you go back to your own personal growth, your own spiritual growth, you probably can remember little glimpses of who you were ten years ago, but you probably cannot get an accurate memory of what you thought about or believed or knew as true or whatever because it has all changed now.
Last seminar there were a couple comments at a break of, well, I want to come back to be the same as I was before I just had that experience. Well, no, actually you do not. Spiritual growth is about not going back. It is about being different.
Whether you notice that evolution or not, you are different now. And some of us would like to be more different than we are, but we are in that evolution, we are in that space.
Okay. So let us look at this in a little more detail, combine it as sort of a beginning to this next journey and looking at the evolution from a different experience and perspective.
See if you can find an approach to holding that paradox that works for you, until it really does work for you.
Okay, get comfortable for a journey.
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Program 12 LB973Y_12J DaBen: Evolving as natural part of the dynamic of the being space, no time realization
DaBen: Welcome.
As a part of our evolution as individuals in the time and space of the earth plane is being able to hold the energies and to observe the energies at the level that is appropriate to those energies, you might notice that when you are interacting with your friends or people that are not into or have played with spiritual growth of any kind, you use a different language, a different set of concepts than with those that are.
So as you in your own experience now, as you experience from the level of the light body and the being space, that you have been very good at translating and spanning and translating that energy back and staying appropriate to the level.
Just recognize that as you do, you are doing a sort of different concept, and that might be a place to start.
So connecting with your guide now, and moving to the light body, and find the cocoon boundary out as far as you can and reasonably comfortably hold the entire volume in your awareness.
Good. And from this light body level, if in this instant you experienced the light body in its totality, all of its frequencies and vibrations, patterns, you notice a certain movement, then you can change the sequence or the length of each moment of that movement, of the sequence.
So that as you recognize these patterns and energies, it becomes more and more difficult to distinguish one moment to the next and how long that moment might have been, or even in the case of the light body the order of those moments.
And with your skill with the light body energy, notice that it is possible to experience a whole number of moments all brought together into a given pattern, a given experience, sort of returning to the idea of a slice of time.
And then it should be within the realm of your looking to regard that as no time. That it is that way, and that it has all of that energy and potential of the light body, and it is however it is when you choose to experience.
Good. And now, looking at this intrinsic element of consciousness now, that dynamic, that intrinsic quality of consciousness to evolve.
And notice that in that dynamic there is a constant activity, and that constant activity sometimes repeats itself perhaps, and at other times it is a new configuration, a new arrangement. And yet it is the energy that allows you to have an experience, to be conscious, to regard other consciousnesses, vast consciousnesses, to be of these vast consciousnesses. And evolving then becomes an aspect of every element of that consciousness, the vast consciousnesses, your consciousness.
Good. And following these shifts now with your guide’s assistance, so that you are able to experience right at the edge of the being space, the downpouring of light of the luminous body, and that luminous light opening up these energies, that their dynamic nature becomes clearer and clearer, brighter and brighter.
Good. And now, notice that the dynamic of the consciousness, being space, of being all consciousness, has within it that expression of the evolving energies that this evolution has come out of, or is an energy manifestation of.
And here we only have your radiance level terms, but imagine that that dynamic creates an energy that evolves the energy, and that energy that is evolved takes on an energy of its own, an expression of consciousness, an expression of that opening, that it participates in the consciousness around it that is mutually observed, mutually aware.
And it is of this energy, for it cannot be of any other energy, just as you are of consciousness, you are in consciousness. In fact you can be more specific; you are in and of earth plane consciousness. You can use your consciousness to use the earth plane energy to connect to energies that are outside.
And the question then becomes, are these energies the earth plane has already connected to, or is that question even of any kind of significance?
For you are a part of this consciousness, and if you connect to an energy that you think the earth plane is not connected to and it is an evolution of earth plane consciousness through your consciousness, so you are in this experience and of this experience of all consciousness, and evolving a part of that dynamic nature.
Good. Now, that experience right there, that recognition of that dynamic and evolving and all consciousness, creating an opening for you to be fully absorbed in your experience with nothing observing, fully experiencing.
Good. And now, recognizing that this evolution is a dynamic nature as well, that it is creating more consciousness, and the consciousness is conscious of that more consciousness, of that more evolved energy.
Perhaps as you experience this, as you think left brain about this, you are expecting this evolved consciousness to be headed in a particular form or toward a particular form.
It is after consciousness, and consciousness that fits with other consciousnesses of like that will reach a harmony, an equilibrium of sorts with all the consciousness, creating places where there is not equilibrium as a way to bring about consciousness in areas required, so to speak.
Good. And now, just riding on this energy, being this experience, this dynamic, this downpouring of luminous light, this expansion.
Good. And just letting that go now, being your experience, and then thanking your guide and coming back to the higher personality that you have spanned, letting go of the light body and just enjoying being at this level.
Good. And letting that go now, and coming back smoothly and easily to the time and space of the earth plane.
And with that, we bid you most pleasant journeys for now.
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Program 13 LB973Y_13T Duane: Talk
Duane: We have been playing with the layers of light beings and layers of light.
This journey we are going to play longer with you playing that light show, finding how you might even more fully express that unique energy that is yours in this moment, so that you have that flow, that way of being in this energy.
You have done very well with the layers of light beings. You may notice that they are the same beings. As you experience their energy you will start to be able to identify certain signatures or characteristics of their energy. They are individuals.
Begin to just notice that flow, the way that you experience them.
Okay, I think that is all we need, so get comfortable for a journey.
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Program 14 LB973Y_14J DaBen: Playing a light show of your experience with and for the layers of light beings
DaBen: Welcome.
Good. And connecting with your guide and moving to the light body, the light body cocoon far enough out to give you an energy coming back, but so close that you can easily hold its volume in your awareness.
Good. And now, begin with that first layer of light, however you have created that, however you have sensed it or visualized it.
Good. And adding more now, but you probably have already, more layers of light. Perhaps using some felt sense or some visualization of color to distinguish them, just so that you can make them distinct and so that you have a sense of the harmonies that they can create as individual lights as you play them, or as chords, adding more, as many as you can comfortably play.
And play to the energy that you are experiencing right now. Find a way to express it in a beautiful light show, whether it be a sense of joy or appreciation, or even a sadness or longing, or whatever you are experiencing, an opening, or a loss. Play it beautifully.
Good. And you can begin to experience the beings of light able to come through that portal that you have created and join you and join the light show.
And the harmonics in this light show that these beings begin to create, to amplify in perfect harmony a harmonic to your light, to an expression of the beauty of your experience.
Good. And in that experience now identify an experience, perhaps an emotional overtone, to what it is that you are playing and being harmonized with, a timeless quality of this experience, a universal nature of this experience, a universal earth plane nature of this experience.
Good. And with these beings now, establish an even more in-depth rapport.
Choose another experience, one that is your experience, uniquely yours, clearly of yours and human and earth plane, that these layers of light beings might join you in recognizing that experience, that they can play harmonics to it and begin to play in concert with it, in such a way that the beauty of your expression is enhanced, takes on an enhanced nature and character, an expression of this light that draws from you an even clearer light and light show, even more clearly portraying your experience.
And as you begin to recognize this, it becomes clear that these beings know earth plane-like energies, that you in creating this opening for them, this portal, gives them an opportunity to play and contribute and to learn, and gives you an opportunity to gain a more conscious expression, a greater and greater appreciation for the depth of your experience, the uniqueness of your experience, the importance of that experience and consciousness on the earth plane.
Good. And with these beings and their assistance now, notice that it is as though you are reaching a harmony with an element at this level of the earth plane consciousness itself; a consciousness that may be expressed through a wide range of species, including humans.
And the more and more pure you are finding your ability to express your energy, this energy, your experience, the further out you are able to reach these beings assisting you in refining the purity of your light show, the alluring beauty of a clear, conscious expression of these energies, of your experience and expression of this energy.
Good. And now, just letting that go, thanking these beings, and know that they are available to you anytime you choose to open that portal for them with this light show, as it were, to assist you in experiencing more deeply, completely, the nature of the energy that you are exploring.
Good. And now, thanking your guide, and smoothly and easily coming back to the time and space of the earth plane.
And with that, we bid you most pleasant journeys for now.
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Program 15 LB973Y_15T Duane: Talk
Duane: Okay. We are moving into these spaces, evolving, recognizing at least a beginning, truly just a beginning of some of these spaces, states, energies.
As you deepen your ability to experience, then you have that opportunity to go even more thoroughly into this space.
Now, DaBen called this seminar that we have just had and discovery group here, Evolving with Peace. And he meant evolving with peace in the true sense of the words that are describing dynamic nature.
And so if you read the word “peace” thinking, ah, I will find a way to get to this plateau and live happily ever after, never ever changing again, then this was the wrong course for you.
If on the other hand, dynamic was something you are after and evolving, then peace comes out of that recognition, out of truly recognizing and embracing the dynamic nature of consciousness.
At the break we were talking about the interconnectedness of all of the life forms, what science calls life, what DaBen would call any degree of order is consciousness, and the layer after layer after layer of vast consciousnesses that make what we can observe possible.
If on the other hand you regard peace as the embracing of that consciousness and the dynamic of nature, then just getting out into that sense of how dynamic things are brings you that peace.
So in this journey let us see if we can really look at that, look at the state it takes you to as you bring to your experience the dynamic nature as at many levels as you can imagine.
DaBen will give you a few and then he will sort of expand on it a little bit. But fill in your own, all the layers of consciousness that you can experience, all the layers of consciousness that you have.
Now, one of the comments at the break that I really appreciate that it has become more and more a realization for me is that I was focusing on the skill aspect of what DaBen was showing us, but all the while he was also very clearly and focusedly bringing about increasing our ability to sense.
The energies that we have built sensory systems for now are amazing. The sensory systems that we have built to sense those energies are truly amazing. We have evolved those. They are not fixed and static senses. We have evolved them to match what we have experienced, and to notice more of those experiences. So use those senses now in your experiencing to find that dynamic nature.
Now, as we do this journey and develop your skill there as well, as we do this journey, when you find the dynamic nature, just notice it in soft focus for a little bit and notice the experience that comes, the peace that comes from that, and then add to it, and add to it.
Eventually you will not be able to hold it all at the same time, but keep adding until it is just the last few that you are able to remember or focus on, and just notice that evolving peace, evolving with peace that is there.
Now, it is best to start out at the light body level, but if you feel drawn to, come back to personality level as well. If you truly accept the dynamic nature of your consciousness at a personality level, the dynamic nature of the interactions of the culture, then there is peace there as well.
Okay, get comfortable for a journey.
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Program 16 LB973Y_16J DaBen: Evolving with peace, experiences across levels and natures, dynamic all
DaBen: Welcome.
Good. And enjoy this building of energy as you bring together your consciousness, your ability to observe, to sense consciousness.
Good. And connecting with your guide now and moving to the light body, the light body cocoon.
Good. And within the cocoon now find frequencies, energies that are whole and complete in their own energy, their intricate patterns and vibration, but it is dynamic.
And begin to in that dynamic, in that awareness, this consciousness of that dynamic, to sense a quality of expression that is conscious, that has a way in which to evolve an expression of its consciousness, the potential to have its evolution become recognize and conscious as a part of your consciousness, a borrowing of power and basic building, but it is your consciousness, your light body, your awakening.
And can be holding with peace this energy, or this energy creating the peace that opens to another consciousness, and the peace that opens to another, just the right energies.
And finding now at the light body level or even at other levels, the being space and the downpouring of light, the flexibility of the being space, the evolving with peace space in itself, find other aspects.
You might recall your playing in a sustained way with the beings of layers of light, a sense of peace from a true expression of your energy, and the recognition of that energy and the evolving of your state of consciousness.
Expanding out now, expanding to larger and larger scales to explore the dynamic nature and the peace that comes from a fuller recognition of the consciousness in that dynamic nature in this level that you have chosen, maybe even levels that create it or are created by the level you have chosen.
And next you might go smaller to the vast consciousnesses of your physical being, or even smaller still to a particular organ like the heart, the dynamic nature obvious from the motion of the cells and the motion the cells create, the constant exchange of energy, the dynamic nature, the energy associated experientially with heart energy, the variety of levels, the peace of the evolution of this dynamic, the ever-varying and open expression of this heart energy, created perhaps just by the physical, but also the dynamic nature at the physical level.
With this experience noticing the peace that comes as you move more deeply into this experience, and the experience before, and the experience before.
Examine now your experience of peace across these levels and varied experiences, and how dynamic the energy underlying this peace is, where peace becomes an experience, an expectation even, of dynamic, of harmonic, of awareness of interconnections, of resonances, of a matching energy to your energy.
Now, just letting that go, experiencing peace, evolving energy, dynamic, evolving energy with peace, with your recognizing that you are naturally evolving, a part of this consciousness, a part of this ever-dynamic and building consciousness.
Good. And now, just letting that go, thanking your guide, and at your own pace and rhythm now letting yourself come back smoothly and easily to the time and space of the earth plane.
And with that, we bid you most pleasant journeys for now.
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Program 17 LB973Y_17T Duane: Talk
Duane: Okay. Groups, using group energy. We do not look at it very often, but when we do you have a great talent for noticing that energy.
So let us look at evolving with peace by looking at various groups. We will begin with the obvious, the discovery group that is here, the discovery group taking it remotely in their time frame, and then expanding out to other like groups that you know of, or are in, or can find their energy.
Begin to play with the way those energies build on one another or interact or open spaces.
Okay, I think that is all we need, so get comfortable for a journey. Just play, open into those spaces.
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Program 18 LB973Y_18J DaBen: Exploring groups energy in evolving with peace
DaBen: Welcome.
Connecting with your guide now, and even at this level connecting with the group, the discovery group, ones that are here, the members of the discovery group that are physically here in this journey space, and those that will be listening to it remotely in their own spaces, own times, and how easy it is to find this group across this space and time, a no space of like energy.
Good. Evolving, notice the dynamic energy of this group, alike and dynamic, harmonized and becoming more harmonized as a part of this evolving consciousness; of the individuals, of the group, of the contributions of the group energy to the individuals, the recognition of the group energy by the individual, communication at this energy level from the individual to the group, evolving, gaining strength, evolving with peace, generating that peace as a part of the group, as a part of the dynamic energy.
And you may be aware of other groups. You may be an active member of other groups of similar, if not like, nature. There may be a similar sort of dynamic, coherence, peace from the group.
Good. And following the energy of your guide now as your guide and other beings help you notice the group of the light body, of people who are studying, who have studied, who have contributed to the gridwork, the light body gridwork, those individuals as a group, a very large group.
The very nature of that group evolving, individual spiritual growth evolving, as individuals, as a group of like interests, a likeness farther from the discovery group but closer than many of the groups that humans naturally form based on their interests and the interests of the groups.
And begin to recognize that you can use your awareness of these groups, your awareness of just the energy of these groups, showing you the dynamic nature and the comings and goings of groups and group energy.
Good. And expand out now to larger, very amorphous groups, but groups nonetheless, humans that inhabit a continent form a group, or all humans, a very, very large group. Not a vast consciousness per se, but vast and conscious.
Good. And you could expand, and do so as you are drawn, to groups of planets, or groups of stars, or groups of galaxies, vast consciousnesses all, layer upon layer of vast consciousnesses.
Notice to the degree it interests you the nature of these groups, the dynamic nature, the evolution.
And from these scales immense in three dimensions, notice the peace that is here in your observing their dynamic nature, their evolution.
Good. And coming back now, and recognize your own involvement in groups that you choose, however fleetingly or temporarily, and how your recognition of that dynamic nature and from that dynamic nature of consciousness the evolving energy, evolving with peace, embracing your nature and the nature of consciousness and being.
Very good. And with that, we wish you all of the possible peace in all areas of your evolving.
Good. And thanking your guide now, and smoothly and easily coming back, coming back to the time and space of the earth plane.
And with that, we bid you most pleasant journeys for now and send you our love and gratitude for your growing and playing in this way, and acknowledge you for all that you as an individual and as a group has created.
Coming back now, and with that we bid you most pleasant journeys.
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