Transcripts of DaBen's Transforming with Light Seminar
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We are providing these transcripts as a way to assist you in understanding DaBen's instructions. The spoken word is different than when it is presented in writing, and these are not intended to take you into the light body spaces. We do not guarantee that these are perfect transcriptions of the journeys, nor are they intended to be. The journeys and talks given at the seminar will be posted as transcribed by our transcriber. Transcripts when complete will be put into PDF format several months after the seminar, and can be downloaded so you can read it on your computer or print it out.

Directory of Discovery Group Programs
Program 01 LB974Y_01T Duane: Talk and Welcome
Program 02 LB974Y_02J DaBen: DaBen: Expressing your unique energy as light, expanded sense of you
Program 03 LB974Y_03T Duane: Talk
Program 04 LB974Y_04J DaBen: Exploring earth plane energy for power with individual guidance
Program 05 LB974Y_05T Duane: Talk
Program 06 LB974Y_06J DaBen: Playing with sensing with entire light body the layers of light beings, playing the light
Program 07 LB974Y_07T Duane: Talk
Program 08 LB974Y_08J DaBen: Layers of light beings space, balance and contrast to earth plane light
Program 09 LB974Y_09T Duane: Talk
Program 10 LB974Y_10J DaBen: Exploring deeper the subtle energy light, layers of light beings
Program 11 LB974Y_11T Duane: Talk
Program 12 LB974Y_12J DaBen: Light as language, sharing a significant experience with layers of light beings
Program 13 LB974Y_13T Duane: Talk
Program 14 LB974Y_14J DaBen: Being space with evolving from new perspectives
Program 15 LB974Y_15T Duane: Talk
Program 16 LB974Y_16J DaBen: Assimilating light, a first glimpse


Program 01 LB974Y_01T Duane: Talk and Welcome

Duane:  All right.  As discovery group we are going to take further and maybe, well definitely, go more in depth in the energies we have been playing with.  Maybe we can give you more an energy sense, a more in-depth sense of this energy, ways to use that energy. 

In the main seminar we played a lot with expressing your unique energy as light, so that you found that.  And you did well with that, although I think for some of you it was a little difficult to sort of let it be as easy as it is in translating that space so that it opens for you. 

As you play in that way, as you sort of just let your experience begin to be expressed as light, it is a natural skill I think we have.  It is part of expressing the beauty that we experience on the earth plane. 

So as we do that now we are going to look a little more in depth.  It will be even easier to do that as you express a larger sense of yourself.  So however you choose to do that, whether it is choosing to look at a larger part of this lifetime or including other lifetimes, anticipating future lifetimes even, so that you get an energy sense of your flow, of your beingness as not just here and in this time and space, but in a larger sense.

We played some in DaBen’s asking you to expand into other areas.  We played some with you getting to a space of aspect selves, so that you got that sense that there is more energy that you could identify as you that even has a presence on the earth plane in this time and at other times. 

So that you gain a sense that the consciousness that you have has lots of other avenues of expression and presences on the earth plane, and perhaps other planes as well, than you think of when you think of this. 

And it gains a context.  Whether you can find them easily as energy, whether you place any particular significance to those experiences, it gives you a context.  So however you might choose to create for yourself that larger context, it is of value for you to do so.  So just look at that space, look at those energies. 

The translation of the space that you are in, your unique energy as light, you have played with layers of light beings a lot, we have worked on that.  Take some of that as though you were playing layers of light and just let the light emerge as you experience your unique energy. 

We are in the beginning stages of developing light as a language and looking at other types of light, and in the next course we will look at assimilating light.  See if you can get a sense of that expression as light of your unique energy.  It gets easier and easier as you form a larger picture. 

Okay, I think that is all we need in introduction, so get comfortable for a journey. 
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Program 02 LB974Y_02J  DaBen: Expressing your unique energy as light, expanded sense of you

DaBen:  Welcome. 

As you connect with your guide, expand what you notice in your consciousness to include a larger and larger sense of you as energy. 

Good.  And now, with your guide’s assistance, finding the ways in which you notice your consciousness has expanded to include this larger sense of you.  Notice that you might be able to easily translate into an energy and express that energy as light. 

Now, moving to the light body, the light body cocoon, and the light body cocoon as far out as you can easily hold, just as large as you can easily hold, so that you sense within that volume now the patterns and frequencies, the light that is here, the ever-active dynamic energy. 

And as you explore in this way, find the connections, the ways that you have expanded to that larger sense of your beingness, find those as light.  So that now as you experience in the light body and you begin to radiate that energy, that you are radiating a unique light, your light, and that your light has unique energy in all of these ways. 

Now, begin to shift that radiance to a vibration, to a resonance that you will notice brings like energy in this space. 

And as you expand with this light, finding all of those places that you are resonating with now, and begin to discriminate and choose which ones to include in your immediate awareness that enhances your ability to experience and increases the power of the earth plane to then just be, to come into spaces that are like this energy. 

And as you experience the light from these areas and express your energy as light, notice that as with the layers of light beings only with this more earth plane light and energy, the light body level and even below, that you can begin to form a back and forth, a conversation so to speak, between these areas, harmonizing the light, adding subtle energies and nuances to your harmonies and expressions. 

Good.  And now, explore expressing this energy as light into the entire discovery group, those that are in this space and those that will be listening later, including yourself.  Open to that space now beyond immediate time, beyond earth plane space, but the space is very close with the shared experiences and like energies. 

Let light begin to build here in an orderly pattern, harmonious light show, so that you have an opportunity to play this light. 

Expand your sense of time here, to broaden it out to the years in the past that you have played in this way with this group, and the years in the future that will play, so that you have this opportunity to transcend time in the ordinary earth plane, ordinary reality sequence. 

Very good.  Now, notice that this degree and quality of light here is an expansion upon your ability to sense and express your experience as light, and to look into that energy of your experience and express that as variations and harmonies on this light.

Good.  And just letting that go now, coming back to the light body, the light body cocoon. 

Good.  And now, thanking your guide and coming back smoothly and easily to the time and space of the earth plane at your own pace and rhythm. 

And with that, we bid you most pleasant journeys for now. 
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Program 03 LB974Y_03T Duane: Talk

Duane:  Okay.  With this ability to express your beingness, who you are at this variety of levels as light, we can now more easily, where we are not constrained by trying to find concepts in the language and concepts in our culture that we are aware of, we can begin to find much more depth and much more nuance in that energy.  So let us in this next journey look at the earth plane. 

You are in and of the earth plane and this is a part of the consciousness that you are, part of the consciousness that you are also in and of, and the being space.  So let us look at how you have that expression as light in this energy so that your expression is a part of the whole earth plane aspect of your experience.  So that you have as we play in the next journeys, you have available to you that power, for lack for a better word, that whole range of experiences and depth of your energy. 

I think that is all we need.  DaBen will supply the rest.  Get comfortable for a journey. 
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Program 04 LB974Y_04J DaBen: Exploring earth plane energy for power with individual guidance

DaBen:  Welcome. 

Enjoy this moving from an experience close to ordinary reality to these spaces.  It is always a pleasure of our to watch your pathways, as it were, to these spaces, and to see how well you have mastered reaching these energies and the variety of ways in which you do this transition. 

Connecting with your guide now and moving to the light body, the light body cocoon, the cocoon as far out as you can easily hold, not too far.  And as you begin to notice that light body energy, the patterns and frequencies here, asking your guide to assist you in finding deeper and deeper parts of your essence of earth plane energy.

And notice as far as you are concerned in your activities now you have unlimited earth plane energies in which to play with.  And the earth and consciousness, the being space, can easily be a part of your experience, the type and shade of light that enables you to experience more clearly. 

Good.  Looking at this earth plane energy now in more depth, perhaps one of the first things that you will notice is the immense variation.  All of the forms of life that have been formed and sponsored over the lifecycle of the earth, and this is but a phase of all of that expression in what you call life. 

But the consciousness, the order that the earth has brought, and the energy applied to creating an environment suitable for your life form, and the consciousness required to maintain conditions that are conducive to your life form, and indeed you. 

So it is not a very large stretch, even though it encompasses this immense variation, to experience that you are an expression of this very large consciousness; that you are part of the species that is expanding, exploring, and connecting, and expanded in different ways, even novel ways, bringing to bear on this the consciousness that brings what your scientists classify as physics into a play, into an interaction. 

And you have been exploring that a part of your expression of consciousness is you are exploring these what you might call spiritual realms, an expansion of this energy, a variation in the light that you can express this as. 

Let us hold a space now that you might more clearly experience as light for each of you individually whenever, wherever you might be playing in these energies, whether you are experiencing this by playing on your own or listening to this journey when and where you might choose. 

Experience these shifts now as energy that you can perhaps express as variations on light, depth and intensity, this volume in which that light interacts, colors and hues, speed and reflectivity, the way the light interacts and refracts with other lights that you are experiencing. 

Let us play with opening more aspects of the earth plane now with its consciousness being generated and supported by all of the volume of the physical earth itself, all of the consciousness of its organization of its structures and its dynamic fields, as we hold that light for each one of you now to experience this as energy, as light. 

Good.  And now let us shift up to a higher, faster vibration where we can capture even more of this energy, these observations of earth plane. 

And even higher now, an even faster vibration, as it were, so that as you play in this way and we assist you in holding those energies individual to each of you, just what is most useful and easily opened for each of you, so that as you play you recognize this energy, this power, expanded energy of the earth plane. 

Good.  And just let that go now, being your experience, and you will be able to find these levels easily to enhance your ability to experience, that your experience can include that of many aspects of the earth plane. 

Good.  And just letting that go now, thanking your guide, and then smoothly and easily letting yourself come back to the time and space of the earth plane, at your own pace and rhythm. 

And with that, we bid you most pleasant journeys for now. 
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Program 05 LB974Y_05T Duane: Talk

Duane:  We will use a journey next to go into looking more felt sense of these energies, to play with that. 

We are reaching a point in our exploration that the energies that you are going to be experiencing, really the only way to deepen the experience of those energies is to use an expanded awareness, a soft focus almost entirely, with no particular place to focus, to use the entire volume of the light body. 

I will share a little bit about some of the ways I first experienced things.  I am reluctant to often do that because each of you have your own ways of experiencing, but maybe you can use this just as an idea, suggestions as to what it might be like for you.  It will be different for you because it is your individual consciousness, your own sensory system.

We have all enjoyed the layers of light beings.  And when I first was introduced to them by DaBen it took me a little while to realize that I could not get a sense of them unless I used literally my entire light body.  They stimulated certain areas in that light body that were something I could sense, and initially it was almost entirely felt sense, and the first being started out as energy from about here to here, but no place else, just right here. 

As I began to understand the energy required to make shifts, in order to make those shifts I had to involve my entire light body and my consciousness of the light body, and I began to understand how to make shifts in that.  Then it shifted up a little bit and closed down here. 

It is this dynamic back and forth.  You are in a dance, you are in a communication, you are in a flow, but you cannot just focus on this because then you do not understand what is going on because you are in your entirety.  You have to be your entire experience. 

I guess we could call it a luxury or a handicap on the earth plane, is that we can pretty easily as humans isolate visual from auditory from all the other senses and we can pretend that we are just seeing it.  The tricks of movies, it is really just visual and sound, the way they put it together, and they trick you all the time into seeing something.  If you really examined it, if you refused to suspend your disbelief, then you would realize that this is just trickery.  But we like stories and this is a great way to experience a story.

So as you play in this way, you cannot isolate it in this space.  It is the entire experience. 

Now, in that entire experience you cannot focus on one area to the exclusion of others.  You can focus more on areas, but you cannot begin to exclude others.  You have to have something in all of your places to experience. 

It is one of the things that DaBen keeps encouraging us to do, is get bigger.  He is asking you to get big enough that you cannot hold everything in great detail.  You have to let some of it fade.  It does not go away, but it fades.  So play with that. 

In this next journey we will look at layers of light beings in more depth than we did in the main seminar, but we will look at them and playing back and forth. 

Now, with the layers of light beings initially the felt sense is going to be the easiest to experience them, but then light can happen if you let your experience open to it, and then you begin to notice that as light as well. 

Now, we are talking about all of these details.  Once again it is the overall sense that creates the space that is so attractive.  The layers of light beings have a very attractive space.  That space is made of that space.  The things that you are seeing are just sort of manifestations of that.  It is the space that you are after. 

DaBen has introduced us to these beings not to have the relationship that we are having.  That is a nice byproduct.  It is nice that these beings are so compatible to opening our experience of that space, but it is the space that DaBen is showing you.  It is that space, it is that energy. 

Now, to use another term, and I will try to make them distinct from here on out, we have been talking about space and we talk about states.  You can be in a variety of states of consciousness in that space.  Shifting those states of consciousness then gives you other ways of experiencing almost, not the same as, but it can almost be described as multiple perspectives. 

These states are your state of consciousness that you can adapt to, adjust to, to make more visible to you different spaces that you are in.  And it is those states and learning about how you feel in those states that you already do. 

You know what the light body feels like.  You know what states of consciousness you are in when you are in the light body energy and space. So that within an instant you know whether you are in the light body, what level of the light body you are at, what degree of development that the frequencies and patterns are in.  You can probably even tell the size that you are doing.  So we are just expanding that.  We are just expanding your sensory system. 

Many seminars ago I kept emphasizing skills, and skills are important.  But I have come to realize as we have played in this way that the real key is your ability to sense.  You would not have been drawn to the light body at all if you did not have the ability to at least naturally as a part of your being be able to sense that energy. 

Now, you have developed that sense by being in the light body, you have developed those senses to a great degree, and truly awakened some of those senses, and some of these spaces we are getting into now I think you are having to develop new senses in order to be there. 

Just recognize that it is probably easier than you are thinking it is.  And as you think that it is something that is more complicated you are missing how simple.  If you surrender, it is really just simple.  We have played with surrender for the discovery group in many ways now.  It is just, oh, it is there.  And if it is not there do not pretend it is.  Go back to re-setup the conditions that it has a chance of being there and keep back and forth. 

Now, one of the things really nice about the layers of light beings is that once they start that interaction and harmonizing light back and forth, there is enough flow that you are drawn into it so you do not as often fall out of that space. 

Remember one of DaBen’s early things is mastery is not how long you stay in the space, it is how quickly you get back.  With the layers of light beings that is not as big an issue because they are constantly interacting. 

Now, if you can open your sensory system to the whole light body, I do not think you will fall out at all because they play the whole of you. 

And you can disregard one of the things I just said, it is not totally accurate.  If you pretend that you are playing the light, they are not going to tell the difference.  As far as you are concerned that is your experience.  You are pretending the light.  You are pretending, but they are experiencing you pretending to play the light.  They are getting the light.  It does not matter.  They are after your experience.  And if you are pretending, then they are getting your experience of pretending.  But it is there, it is the energy. 

So let us do a journey and play at this.  DaBen will invent some fun games for us. 

Okay, get comfortable for a journey. 
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Program 06 LB974Y_06J DaBen: Playing with sensing with entire light body the layers of light beings, playing the light

DaBen:  Welcome. 

It is with great pleasure that we explore in these ways with you.  We want each of you to have as full an experience as is possible, to reach beyond any limitations that are there through confusion or habit or any other reason, because it is so easy to reach these spaces.  You have the skills and the senses, so let us release them now. 

Connecting with your guide and asking your guide to explore ways in which to assist you in sensing these energies. 

Reaching for the light body now, and notice the patterns and frequencies, and expand the light body out to a volume that you can easily hold, but just barely.  So that you have above and below, front and back, and to each side, and that it is more than just those quadrants, as it were, it is each volume, each small area. 

So that if your light body cocoon, just to give you dimensions, were 90 feet out, say, that you then have 90 feet of radial direction that can all be different, and then you have got the full 360 degrees of a circle, and then you have got an entire sphere.  So you have really a very large area that can have independent, distinct variations.

Now, with your senses right now you cannot hold all of that in sharp focus at the same time, but it is not sharp focus we are after.  What we are after is your sense of that as a volume; its entirety and its smaller areas, but not sharp focus.  The volume is not sharp focus.  It is soft, diffuse, much as the layers of light, soft and diffuse, and yet dynamic, not a static energy.  The patterns are changing in different ways in different parts of this light body cocoon. 

It truly is a cocoon rather than a sphere because you have a core.  We have not focused on that core very much because you have an experience of the light body.  But you might remember that this core is very sensitive to energies and changes.  It is a part of your light body and beingness to open to those energies, those skills, and it is the entire space that we are after, that we want to capture here.  And your light body is a great sensory system, mechanism, patterns. 

Now, just opening the back of the head and neck and letting your physical body become less and less a part of your awareness, so that you are within this cocoon, the light body cocoon. 

Now, begin playing the layers of light and look at where you first noticed the layers of light. 

You might begin with a visualization of the layers of light between the Ranthia and the Pieah, in that area, but that soon loses its distinction because it moves and changes.  And you are not playing it as a visualization.  It might start out as an accordion, but you are not playing it with your fingers or hands, you are playing it with your energy, with expressions of your energy, your unique energy that creates this opening within the light body, that you have this playing the lights. 

And let your mind just let those be as indistinct, as amorphous, that they are not taking up the same space.  They are in the light body but they are not in the light body, these layers of light.  They are there when you choose to observe them and play them, and they are not when you are not. 

So playing those layers of light now and letting the beings come in, and experience them as near or as far, that they can easily be inside the radius of the light body or they can be further out.  That here distance is determined more by like energy than by distance. 

So as they harmonize your light, you are experiencing that throughout the entire light body, and beyond if you choose, but throughout the entire light body as sensations, vibrations, and some of the time as light. 

Now, the some of the time as light and this felt sense, light just occurs when it does, the felt sense is there when you experience it. 

Good.  Now, begin to explore certain areas of the light body cocoon now.  Are any of the layers of light beings occupying the light body energy behind you, and if so, which side, in which upper part or lower part?  Can you be more distinct in the area?  That will be changes in your sense of the patterns and frequencies. 

And if the light beings are not there, where are you noticing them, or maybe you are noticing them but they are harmonizing light, where here light can be a sense, a sense in the light body. 

As you play those lights now to communicate, as it were, with these beings, play exactly what you are experiencing as accurately as you can, as precisely as you can.  And notice that as the beings open in this way, that you have the opportunity to use their observations, their opening.  By looking at the harmony they create you have this chance to see vibrations that you created, the light that you played. 

Good.  Continuing to play just for the enjoyment of your insights, the harmonies that these beings create for you, a greater sensing.

Very good.  Now, just letting that go, playing a thank you to these layers of light beings. 

Very good.  Now, thanking your guide, and notice the greater awareness, vibrancy even in the light body cocoon now. 

Good.  And now, at your own pace and rhythm, thanking your guide, and coming back smoothly and easily to the time and space of the earth plane at your own pace and rhythm. 

And with that, we bid you most pleasant journeys for now. 
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Program 07 LB974Y_07T Duane: Talk

Duane:  A question for you.  How many of you found sensing either through felt sense or with visual light those spaces easier to sense this time in that journey?

Okay, great.  We will in the coming journeys play more with that.  It is easier than you think and it is probably more subtle than you may at first be looking for, so we will play with that. 

Remember it is the space, the experience of the space that we are after.  These details are manifestations that sort of enable us to notice more about what we are experiencing in that space. 

Okay.  We played a lot with the layers of light beings and that energy.  We explored that space.  So let us look even more in depth at that space, experience that space even more in depth. 

See if you can, as you experience, notice the contrasts to the light that you experience on the earth plane and the light of this space, just to notice, to find harmonies between them, to use the power of the earth plane to that opening and that light to bring even more awareness of the subtleties of the layers of light being space, so that you have that contrast. 

And not to do anything with it, just to notice it.  You will integrate it as you begin to play with earth plane energies and so on.  It will just naturally be.  It is one of those where I think once you have observed something you cannot easily notice similar things without noticing more of that whole energy and pattern, so it will just happen. 

Okay.  We are going to in this journey go to the layers of light being space, but just a little ways into that space, not too deeply, so that we can still gain experience and have a sense of light body as well, or at least some fading sense of light body. 

Okay.  Again, this is just play.  Experiment, explore.

Okay, get comfortable for a journey. 
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Program 08 LB974Y_08J DaBen: Layers of light beings space, balance and contrast to earth plane light

DaBen:  Welcome. 

Connecting with your guide now and moving to the light body, the light body cocoon, holding that entire volume in your awareness now, large enough so that you have a large volume to experience, but not so large that you have to really reach to hold that in your awareness. 

Good.  And making sure that you have an awareness through that entire volume now, an ability to sense however you do changes or patterns, and it is dynamic all the time, and you can recognize new patterns or the nature of familiar patterns. 

Now, begin playing the layers of light. 

Now, with that energy building up, the harmonies from these layers of light beings, begin to let that energy build as it becomes brighter and brighter. 

And now, with the layers of light beings and your energy begin to let that light expand, spaces between this light now, and begin to open that space, that portal, as it were, to these layers of light beings space. 

And just asking your guide to assist you in sensing this energy as you move into that space through that portal with these beings, with your entire ability to experience now, how those many senses can sense the energy about you, and that your light body can absorb those variations and you experiencing them there and every place else that you can sense this energy. 

And  noticing how that exchange of light, harmony, as you harmonize with the light from these beings they harmonize with yours, gaining more and more light and energy. 

Now, broaden your focus of your sensing to not just what these beings are playing and what you are playing, broaden to include the space, this really very special and interesting space.  It is a wonderful contrast and comparison to the space of the earth plane. 

Thanking these beings now and coming back to the light body space, very smoothly and easily, and watching the changes in energy as you do. 

Now, with your guide’s assistance, begin to hold this light body space in a way that you can translate that back. 

Good.  And now, just letting that go and thanking your guide, and translating that energy back now to the shimmer in the Renawre cocoon as you begin to come back. 

Coming back smoothly and easily now. 

And with that, coming all the way back fully and completely to the time and space of the earth plane, and with that, we bid you most pleasant journeys for now. 


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Program 09 LB974Y_09T Duane: Talk

Duane:  We are going to look at light in a few different ways.  We have been playing a lot with some aspects in the main seminar.  We played with it in a variety of ways, and we are going to look deeper at those and perhaps a little additional. 

As we look at this, you recognize that light is a visual term, but you are going to be able to experience this, in fact with the layers of light beings probably able to experience them in felt sense terms.  We will try to have DaBen point out as the journey progresses using your light body. 

As some of you were sharing I did not realize that you were not using your light body, or some of you were not using your light body as a full sensory system.  So we will see if we can develop it so that you have that whole light body to sense the energy that is there, and we will see if we can enhance on that even more. 

This whole series, of which this is the first, this whole series of seminars is around light and developing light as a language.  We will look eventually at different types of light, assimilating that light, so it will be good in this seminar if we can get a good foundation in that experience.  So as discovery group let us see if we can open some places that we will all be able to use as we progress. 

All right.  In this first journey we are going to see if we can show you a distinction.  Not a distinction that you are going to be able to easily make in a left brain way.  When we talk about light in our culture on the earth plane we are talking about the visible spectrum of the electromagnetic spectrum, so we are looking at photon and wave properties for that.  But you can see it.  If you take sunlight and put it through a prism you can see a rainbow splitting it into individual frequencies. 

We are going to expand on that to what we can call subtle light, so that we can look at all sorts of light, look at light speed beyond what would be in this electromagnetic spectrum when we are in that subtle energy. 

As you have been looking at the layers of light beings you have already been looking at a subtle light, and so we are going to just play a little bit more with other ways to sense that.  We will play back and forth between subtle light that you can experience from the light body easily, the light that we might mean from the physics side, from ordinary reality, matter based, and then we are going to expand that a little bit with the subtle light of the layers of light beings, so that you have that.

The goal would be to get you to be able to experience that light, whether in a visual way or a felt sense way or a combination of both, or with other senses.  I think there are other senses that we have all developed, and you would not be in the light body if you had not had at least some ability to sense the light body energies, and as the name implies, light at these subtle levels. 

So we are going to expand on that, skills you already have, skills that you are developing, and see if we can enhance your ability to experience as light. 

Okay.  Again, be playful with this, be inventive.  We are seeing how far we can push our senses, our consciousness, in these areas.  It should be a chance to really experience this opening. 

Okay, get comfortable for a journey. 
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Program 10 LB974Y_10J  DaBen: Exploring deeper the subtle energy light, layers of light beings

DaBen:  Welcome. 

We are looking forward to having you able to experience at a deeper more thorough level these energies so that you can enjoy even more of these spaces and be able to be a part of, influence, experience, gain consciousness in these ways as well. 

So connecting with your guide now, and then moving to the light body, the light body cocoon, paying as much attention as you can to any variations throughout the volume of the cocoon.  And letting the cocoon boundary extend out to where you can easily but have to stretch a little bit to hold that entire volume in your awareness, so that you could notice various changes anywhere within the cocoon. 

And asking your guide to assist you in holding the entire volume in your awareness so that you are able to sense variations and differences throughout the cocoon, all as a natural part of your ability to be in this space, to experience. 

Good.  Just join the flow of that energy in your experience now. 

Let us look at a frequency, perhaps a frequency of vision, that you can feel or see, these lights within the frequencies beginning to become brighter and take on patterns and directions.  And eventually it spreads throughout the entire cocoon, that you can almost watch a wave of these frequencies, this frequency move throughout the cocoon and bring all of the frequencies of this vision into alignment as it were, into a sort of harmony. 

As we continue for each of you to hold a space and to provide light for you to experience, just notice these energies and into that space to experience. 

Building on that now, taking this experience, letting this frequency of vision go, and experiencing once again your energy, you as energy. 

As you experience you as energy, as light, recognize as you have already played with the earth plane energy, with the patterns here, and sensing it more completely so that you gain this perspective of the earth plane and your experience in and of earth plane energy. 

To provide a contrast now, begin to play the layers of light, and notice that light, the differences in quality, the way it moves.  And as you play, begin to open more to that energy and it changes even more, so that it comes from an earth plane light beginning, a layers of light type of light. 

And begin to sense throughout your entire cocoon volume the interaction of this layers of light light and these beings as they begin to create a light harmony throughout the entire cocoon; sensing, feeling this energy, noticing the light as energy, as feelings, as light throughout the entire cocoon volume. 

And make a shift now in what it is that you are playing as though if you were in a conversation; in some senses you are.  Change the topic to whatever you might choose, but a different felt sense for you, sharing your experience in some new area, sharing as light.  This light can be a felt sense or a visual or a variety. 

Now, just begin to let that go, thanking these beings in your playing this light, and experience your energy and the energy you are in with your cocoon now. 

Letting that come back to your own experience now, in whatever way is most familiar to you to experience, and thanking your guide, and smoothly and easily now coming back to the time and space of the earth plane, smoothly and easily. 

And with that, we bid you most pleasant journeys for now. 
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Program 11 LB974Y_11T Duane: Talk

Duane:  In the main seminar we explored a lot about light as language.  I am still not sure I like the language part of that as it has too many constrictive connotations for what we are actually conveying.  It goes beyond language.  It has a full experience, much as you could convey as you gain awareness of your own energy, you could convey all that you are experiencing in the light body, for instance, in playing that light.  And we will explore other types of light as well, but this is a great place to begin. 

Let us in this next journey look at not just you conveying your experience at that moment, but have in mind a set of experiences that you would like to convey to the layers of light beings.  How would you communicate that to them, your experience of something you find particularly meaningful or significant in your life.  How would you convey that whole range?  First the substance perhaps, or the felt sense of that significance, or add to it, what of your energies is this significant to.

So that you are developing a whole range, what tomorrow we will probably call a story, but you are developing a good story with this.  You have all the elements of a story; the challenges that you had that you were using to play with in this way, that this was significant at this time, sort of a because, and your experience of how that changed, so that you can begin to convey that in light. 

The more I look at and begin to do some reading on writing fiction and writing stories, that is certainly an area that humans learn a significant amount from.  It seems to be a way, a basic vehicle we use to communicate.  The whole entertainment industry may not be the greatest stories in the world, much of it, but it is a story.  And often in industry, where industry is about making money, it is a very low common denominator story, but it is still a way of conveying information, conveying experience. 

As you were drawn to the light body it may be that you liked who you became, you liked the story that you could tell in light body energy, the opening it created in the space that you were in.  And it gave you, much as good fiction does, a whole other world in which to inhabit for a while.  Just look at that as an aspect here.  Pick a story, per se, to convey in light to these beings. 

Now, with these beings they are excellent listeners, because they are giving you what their experience was and harmonizing with yours, so that you gain more and more insights.  Just as a really good story does for you, it develops your insights about things you may not have noticed before about how you think about things just because it stimulated that harmonizing there.  So just look at this light as language in that sort of regard.  Make it more full, make it more glowing. 

A lot of stories embellish an area, what does Hollywood call it, based on a true story, inspired by a true story, that is a better term, “inspired.”  But they have to make it inspiring to capture the audience, and a good fiction writer does the same thing, they inspire.  Science fiction or fantasy, all of those, you gain a lot from reading them if the structure conveys you to a world that is consistent.  So that from the beginning of the book what you thought reality in this story was is still reality at the end of the story, that they have not invented all sorts of things, magic that has to happen in order to let the story flow. 

Begin to look at this, sort of a preview of tomorrow and Wednesday, to begin to look at this in conveying your experience in some area something that was significant to you, something that has meaning for you, as light.  Communicate it as light, and watch these beings come back to you with enhanced, with harmonized, with expanded experiences.  See what you can learn from that, what insights that might be valuable in a retelling of that story. 

I have been doing a little reading about some of the scientific areas of memory, and memories are constantly recycled.  If you remember something, you are not retelling it, you are reworking the memory that you had originally.  So by the time you are the fourth or fifth in, that does not even resemble the initial memory.  It is reworked.  Just look at this, see what you can gain from it. 

I will add one other element that we will play with a lot tomorrow.  It will be good as discovery group to see how you respond to this. 

One of the things we will do tomorrow is take a look at, okay, you have this instant.  Now, you could rearrange it.  It is just that instant.  Can you break out of sequential time?  Can you say, okay, this occurred and then this occurred and then this occurred, so that you now have a future event and a past event and a present event out of order, out of sequence.

Play with that a little bit in this as you are telling this story and see what a fiction writer would call a flashback or a flash forward, something like that.  See if you can incorporate that as you are a part of this language. 

Now, as you are doing that you hopefully will find that translating it into light for the layers of light beings — and they will enjoy this, I guarantee you – as you translate that in light you will become more and more proficient in that telling it as light.  Your language skill will increase. 

Okay, get comfortable for a journey. 
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Program 12 LB974Y_12J DaBen: Light as language, sharing a significant experience with layers of light beings

DaBen:  Welcome. 

Light as language, light as communication, a fuller and richer communication, more and more elements can be communicated, can be shared, can be recreated from your experience, for even in sharing your experience in this way you are recreating an experience, you are recreating an experience from memory. 

So connecting with your guide, and this time asking your guide for assistance in helping you embellish, as it were, your story, your energy, making it more and more interesting. 

Moving to the light body now, the light body cocoon. 

Good.  Having some idea now as to where you will begin relaying this significant experience, some energy picture of this as a story, the energy from beginning to end perhaps, and with that as energy, telling it as energy. 

The light that you are conveying, the felt sense that you are conveying, can now come from your entire light body cocoon, so that you can tell the story with all sorts of nuances.  And in that regard you are not limited to telling just a story in a sequential way, but you can tell the story in a depth, a dimension. 

Good.  Now, playing the layers of light, being joined shortly by the layers of light beings. 

And begin to play your story now, this significant experience, and the way to make it meaningful as light, as felt sense, from the whole cocoon playing this light. 

Begin to, as you continue playing this energy, find ways to bring in more and more harmonics responding to these beings’ harmonies, more and more intricate patterns that support the main light show.  Be inventive. 

As you share your experiences notice the harmony and light that you receive back and adjust your use of the light in a way to enhance the experience of these beings more and more fully, in a more expand way perhaps. 

As you experience now this light coming back to you and you are sending light in this conversation, bring those elements of that conversation to a point where you can conclude your sharing.  Find a good ending for your story, as it were. 

Thanking these layers of light beings now, concluding your communication, your conversation, with a thank you for the light that they have given you, the interpretations that you have been able to gain, perspectives that you have gained. 

Good.  And now, coming back fully into the light body, being your experience and thanking your guide, and coming back now fully and easily to the time and space of the earth plane. 

Good.  And with that, we bid you most pleasant journeys for now. 

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Program 13 LB974Y_13T Duane: Talk

Duane:  You are as a discovery group helping open some things up, which is great. 

And we have been looking at some other aspects of energies with your focus on using the whole light body as a sensory system.  Let us explore that a little more deeply as discovery group.  Maybe we can open that for everyone.  It seems to be making a difference for all of you in some of your ability to experience as well. 

Let us go back from this language, from this light, from noticing light, being, creating experiences with light or in light, expressing them as light, where light is felt sense or visual or combinations or something that you experience in the light body even, so that it has a whole variety of meanings.  Let us take that and this experience and go to the being space and go more deeply into that. 

An area that is of great value but we have not really gotten to a deep level yet, that is in the being space it has always got this inherent driving force to evolve.  We played with that last seminar in a significant way.  But when we came to calling out that space, there is always sort of, okay, an intellectual type of, oh, that is what I should do, rather than being grabbed by the experience.  And we got to a good level of evolving with peace, but we did not have the depth behind it that we could have.  So let us see if we can discover how to create that deeper experience in the being space with evolving, so that we have that as well. 

Now, that will give you I think another potential opening in looking at consciousness, which we will do tomorrow and Wednesday, looking at consciousness, earth plane, being on the earth plane, and looking at it as almost returning again and again as consciousness.  Let us see if we can find more that evolving energy in the being space.

Now, having said that, do not try to intellectually figure out what that might be.  See if you can get it from your experience, from the basis of your experience, and then maybe we will talk a little afterwards, but see what is there for you. 

Okay, get comfortable for a journey. 
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Program 14 LB974Y_14J DaBen: Being space with evolving from new perspectives

DaBen:  Welcome. 

Connecting with your guide now in a way that will assist you in noticing consciousness, experiencing, noticing experiencing, being, letting all of that merge into being. 

And moving to the light body to begin. 

Now, experience your beingness now with all of the light that you have played with, with all the expressions as light that you have experienced with expanding your ability to experience perhaps, changing the focus with all the layers of light beings.  Your sense of being has expanded, so include that in your being, not to express it as light or use light as a communication. 

More deeply into being, the being space, expanding that slowly into an experience of all consciousness. 

And sensing this consciousness in as many ways as you can within your beingness, within the light body, and using as many senses, as many points of awareness as you can. 

As you be, as you are being all consciousness now, let us look into that experience.

And notice that part of your desire to grow, to be more conscious, to build actively consciousness, to notice that consciousness, to seek out opportunities to gain conscious, is a part of the same feeling, the same sense that you can experience in this all consciousness; consciousness striving to become more conscious, and all of this consciousness seeking that more consciousness, and that consciousness seeking consciousness, coming into areas that consciousness is acquired in a whole variety of ways.

That it is able to be, able to open abilities to look at, experience energies, whether those energies be in your experiential realm or even in the cultural realm or your experience of the earth plane and its evolving. 

Exploring even more thoroughly now that evolving as a feeling, as a driving force in this energy, and all the avenues that that evolving takes in terms of expressions. 

For our experience we are looking at those expressions that result in consciousness about the ability to experience, the ability to expand the ranges of energies that can be experienced, the consciousness required to make connections and relate experiences to other experiences in meaningful, uplifting ways. 

You are doing very well.  Just notice now more of that experience.  Just let yourself totally be immersed in this experience, carried by it, a part of the being, the being space, all consciousness joining its evolving. 

As you experience this energy now, this evolving, this beingness, the being space, all consciousness, notice that you can look at, experience other aspects of this experience.  That you can play this experience and find harmonies in the earth plane energy, the energies beyond the earth plane energy. 

Now, just letting that go, just being your experience. 

Good.  And thanking your guide, and now letting yourself come back to the light body, the light body cocoon, enjoying the richness of this experience, the underlying energy of the being space, the driving force of evolving that it contains, and your unique expression of that consciousness of being. 

Good.  And now, letting yourself come back smoothly and easily at your own pace and rhythm. 

Good.  Coming all the way back now smoothly and easily, and with that, we bid you most pleasant journeys for now. 
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Program 15 LB974Y_15T Duane: Talk

Duane:  Assimilating light we just have the beginning glimpse of, capability to glimpse now.  As we work with it I think it is going to evolve into a whole set of ways to be, use, to make our own, a whole variety of energies. 

So we are going to just take a beginning look at that in this next journey.  Partly to look at it and also partly to set an interesting type of energy that we will probably call on in a quiet way tomorrow. 

Okay, get comfortable for a journey. 
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Program 16 LB974Y_16J DaBen: Assimilating light, a first glimpse

DaBen:  Welcome. 

Exploring, beginning to look at where these energies might lead, and letting yourself be inventive as to what the implications of these current experiences might be in developing future experiences, in discovering future energies.  So let us take one possible avenue, as it were. 

Connecting with your guide. 

Good.  Now, moving to the light body, the light body cocoon, and notice how the light has set up here, that all of your work with the being space and these layers of light beings you can use as you expand your experience, as you communicate with light, express your beingness as light, as a felt sense, as a visual, as a light body. 

As you notice this light now in the light body cocoon and with the light body, and you are recalling and experiencing again the light of the layers of light beings and your beingness, so you begin to use this light that you have been experiencing to shift patterns within your experience, to connect patterns, to open those energies with this light, assimilating this light, as it were, so that your consciousness is forever changed by it. 

See if you can discover specific areas now that you can be more conscious of an area, or the existence of an area, perhaps something that you have been looking for or puzzled about or a degree of confusion as you have played with the energy, all the way to ordinary reality and the consciousness required to make sense of it from ordinary reality. 

For it often takes looking at areas and making some sort of comparison, for consciousness happens and the past is gone, you are now conscious of that area.  So opening just to notice any of those that are obvious to you. 

And much as you played with the layers of light beings, part of the way that you experience these energies now will be with that type of light, that finer, more diffuse but very piercing light, opening spaces, interacting differently, faster, in different ways, reflecting differently. 

As you explore now, let us play with doing some shifts in the energy.  It might give you a greater ability to experience this light and assimilating this light of the layers of light beings into your presence and beingness. 

With your guide’s assistance now following this shift, and again, and sort of smoothing that out now.  You are in a particular light that assists you in experiencing consciousness, and consciousness that is beginning to make shifts in this energy of your being. 

Good.  And just letting that go now.  You have reached a good point of awareness, of opening consciousness and being aware of light and different types of light.  And we will build on that in the energies in the months to come. 

Thanking your guide now and coming back to the light body, the light body cocoon. 

Good.  Thanking your guide and coming back smoothly and easily to the time and space of the earth plane, at your own pace and rhythm, completely back. 

And with that, we bid you most pleasant journeys for now. 
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