Transcripts of DaBen's Transforming with Light Seminar
Seed Group

Seminar Journeys (J) and Talks (T)

We are providing these transcripts as a way to assist you in understanding DaBen's instructions. The spoken word is different than when it is presented in writing, and these are not intended to take you into the light body spaces. We do not guarantee that these are perfect transcriptions of the journeys, nor are they intended to be. The journeys and talks given at the seminar will be posted as transcribed by our transcriber. Transcripts when complete will be put into PDF format several months after the seminar, and can be downloaded so you can read it on your computer or print it out.

Directory of  Programs
Program 01 LB975X_01T Duane: Talk and Welcome
Program 02 LB975X_02J DaBen: Balance of experience between group and individual as light
Program 03 LB975X_03T Duane: Talk
Program 04 LB975X_04J DaBen: Playing with the thinness of the veil between physical presence on earth plane and beyond
Program 05 LB975X_05T Duane: Talk
Program 06 LB975X_06J DaBen: Exploring with pure beings, setting space, opening the portal
Program 07 LB975X_07T Duane: Talk
Program 08 LB975X_08J DaBen: Exploring with constancy beings, opening the portal


Program 01 LB975X_01T Duane: Talk

Duane:  Okay.  The assimilating main seminar this time, we have come a long way, lots of energy, lots of skills.  Experiencing as light is something that I thought would be much more difficult for the group to achieve than it turned out to be, so just play with that space, be in that opening, use that.  There is a lot more information there for you to play with, to be in that space. 

As you work on that in these journeys notice as much as you can.  Use as much of your experiencing as light as you can to be in these spaces.  There will be a lot more information you can gain. 

And information, I always try to find a better word, and maybe you can tell me later a better word.  Data is worse, and information is not quite right.  But we have now sort of recognized that for many years we have been beyond where language does us much good.  We have tried to communicate by explaining it in one way, and then explaining the same thing in a different set of words, and a different set of words, until the communication has gotten across, if the person has already shared their experience in their version of it. 

But with light you have a much greater tool.  It does not work all that well verbally, but in terms of getting the information and in being in those spaces it is a great breakthrough. 

As you saw in playing with the portal beings it is not quite universal but pretty close to a universal expression or experience that can be shared that way, at least with the beings we have been playing with so far. 

Okay.  One of the things that DaBen would like to do as a seed group is to play with several areas that we can look at, develop for next April, and maybe even see how we could handle your light signature on Tuesday and Wednesday the most efficiently, so that we get that energy there strongly. 

Okay.  The first journey we are going to look at will be around your experience of group energy and experience of your individuality; how you experience as an individual, how you hold the group experience, finding the sort of balance between the two, how do you balance them. 

Often in our language and in our culture it is almost an either/or proposition.  You are doing something that is good for the group or you are doing something good for your individuality.  Sometimes it is both, and it could probably be both more often, but we are a very individualistic culture, so that is the sort of dichotomy that is there. 

What you have discovered in these energies is that is not the way it is experienced at all.  It is an integration.  If it is in the flow, if it is in your individual nature, and if you have chosen that well, then it is the group nature.  It is synchronicity at that point.  You have come into a place that you are aligned with that flow. 

So let us look at what it is, now that we have more ability to experience, let us look at what it is there. 

DaBen spent quite a few journeys on the first day looking at the being space.  He called it the being space some of the time, and other times he would just call it that flow of mental fluidity or the flow of emotional flow or the flow of physical sensation, physical being.  You probably began to notice the commonality of the nature of that energy, how it had similarities. 

And then we found it again as we played with the beings around constancy, and probably you had already recognized it from the being space.  So we are beginning to define greater detail, greater experience, greater levels of experience in that flow, in that type of vibration, in that constancy.

So let us look, let us play around that, play with detail and back and out and so on. 

Okay, I think that is all we need in the way of introduction.  Be inventive.  See if you can discover your sense of what that balance is, or how you know you are in that balance and so on.

I think that is all we need.

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Program 02 LB975X_02J DaBen: Balance of experience between group and individual as light

It is such a pleasure to be in this time and space with the seed group again, and look how much you have accomplished, all the spaces that you have opened over these many of your earth plane years.  And it is truly remarkable the openings that you have created for yourselves and for others. 

So let us explore now what could be an area of evolution, a breakthrough of sorts for you in your experience on the earth plane, and a breakthrough that as you become more and more complete with it has the potential to open to a broader and broader consciousness and understanding, as it were. 

So finding the light body, the light body cocoon, connecting with your guide, and extending that out to the seed group, to this tear drop. 

And noticing the group now, the seed group, and your experience as light at an individual level,

And in this particular group you have a great degree of familiarity, so to speak, with the way the energy works within the group, of the flow and nature, and particularly within this teardrop that has been so useful to play and let the energy flow as a part of the natural connections and overlap and interplay at physical and psychic and light body levels. 

Good.  And letting that flow along the tear drop now, moving in both directions, and beginning to form a cocoon above and below and just to the outside. 

Expanding that out now, and experiencing the being space, both as your individual experience as light and what you can experience as a part of this group of the being space, where it takes on more than just the individuals.  In fact it is probably difficult to hold onto a collection of individuals for long, for it takes on its own character, its own nature, its own response as a being space, a breadth and depth. 

And notice how much easier it can be to hold the being space in more and more detail. 

Exploring now where you place your attention, on your individual experience or the group experience, or better yet a balance between the two, what is the right balance for this experience at this moment. 

And notice the qualities of light, the flow of light, the movement of light, the nature of the information you are receiving from that light, and balance to the degree that you can consciously by increasing or decreasing the portion of individual or the way you pay attention to the group, to its experience, this group’s experience of the being space. 

Good.  Now, expand into other spans or dimensions of your experience of these spaces into no time, where it is the energy and it takes on some of the character of that constancy.  Now what is the balance between group and your individual experience as light?

Good.  And just letting any focus of no time go, so that if time and sequencing is relevant to your experience as light then let it be whatever it naturally is for that experience.  And you may find it changes and shifts. 

And finding that balance now between individual experience and group experience of the being space, that energy, of the nature of that flow. 

Good.  And just letting that go now.  Just notice your experience.  Compare the flow and qualities of light between the group experience and your individual experience, the nature of the light, the flow, the depth, the advantages of both, advantages of each individually. 

Good.  Coming back now, thanking your guide, coming back to the time and space of the earth plane. 

And with that, we bid you most pleasant journeys for now. 

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Program 03 LB975X_03T Duane: Talk

Duane:  Okay.  As you have been playing here the ability to experience energies sort of beyond a veil, or a veil of this earth plane in this moment, this lifetime, whatever that might mean, and we will explore some of what that might mean, but that veil is getting thinner and thinner.  You are able to experience more of the fuller dimension rather than just within that set of experiences within that space.  So let us see where we as a seed group can take that, what we can sponsor each other as individuals in taking that and to exploring what is there. 

It is very similar to what we were just playing with in terms of group and individuality, only here we will be playing with time in some sense, but it is really quality of energy. 

Sequentially we take it as time.  We are either on the earth plane or at some point we are not on the earth plane, and we tend to view that as a sequence, as something that happens in time.  And from a sequential point of view it happens in time. 

But I think we are getting to a level of skill now where it is not just time.  That we could view after you leave the earth plane to some degree.  That it is still an energy as long as there is enough coherence to the energy that you can find that, what you identify as you or as an individual or as a group, of what you can identify.

In many of the areas that we are starting to explore we really do not have any solid idea, or even care, as to whether it is now in time or something that is manifest on the earth plane.  As long as we are getting the experience it really does not matter whether it is this explanation or another explanation. 

More and more we are getting to the places where we can experience, and that experience then brings about a consciousness, or opens to a consciousness that we can acquire.  We become conscious and eventually we may choose to assimilate that as a part of our view of the world or the way we are in the world.

So let us just see if it is of any significance to you to play in this way, what your experiences are, whether it is something that we should explore that would open your experience, so that we have that as a potential to play with. 

DaBen would like to see how you respond to that, how you use that, what it opens for you, how you would play with the energy, whether that energy has a particular kind of flow in its own right, all of the ways in which he receives his feedback from holding the space for you. 

Okay, get comfortable for a journey.

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Program 04 LB975X_04J DaBen: Playing with the thinness of the veil between physical presence on earth plane and beyond

DaBen:  Welcome. 

Exploring now this space, this energy. 

Very good.  Connecting with your guide and moving even more deeply into the light body cocoon and finding the energy of the tear drop of each of the individuals and the group. 

Very good.  Now, let us start perhaps with an individual level of experience, an individual that you had a fondness for, an affection or a love, that has left the earth plane, who has moved to other dimensions, is no longer physically on the earth plane. 

Just begin by recalling your experience, a memory of your connection, of your association, and begin to build on that experience now to an energy level so that you have an experience that you can express as light that captures some of perhaps what we will call, or soon be able to call with meaning, their light signature.  But you know their signature, you know their light.  You know their light in association with your light. 

And you can use the group here to help you hold a constancy, everybody holding a constancy for others. 

You can begin to notice now, not to interact with in a personality way, but just to have a sense of the energy that is there as a memory that you might be able to find the signature as it would have transformed in this period of time or in those transitions, however you could recognize that signature. 

And just let your experience, your emotional flow, just let it help you open to those spaces, to that flow of emotional flow, that being space sort of opening. 

Good.  And now just letting that go. 

Now, find at some point in the future, and do not try to pin down when, at some point in the future you will have left a physical presence on the earth plane.  Not looking for the energy of that process or the when or any of those details.  You know your energy, your signature.

Choose a time that you still have that signature but have left the physical plane, and see if you can notice any details about changes in that signature, in your light body signature, between the you present on the earth plane and the you not present. 

And not to attempt to communicate in an ordinary personality way, but to notice energies, to compare energies, to compare consciousnesses, to exchange as light, as consciousness. 

And using the group energy to hold a constancy, a very dynamic flow, but a constancy. 

And perhaps in experiencing in this way you can explore the nature of that exchange, the consciousness that you have acquired, the nature of that transition of that consciousness to beyond the physical forms. 

Good.  Now just letting that go, being in this time and space in this physical form, having these perspectives on your presence, on the dynamic nature and conscious presence and all that you have acquired in consciousness. 

Good.  And just letting that go now, thanking your guide, being your experience. 

And with that, we bid you most pleasant journeys for now.

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Program 05 LB975X_05T Duane: Talk

Duane:  Okay.  We will explore some of these areas DaBen watched in light signature on Tuesday and Wednesday, and we will go a little deeper into at least one aspect of this energy tomorrow, and go more deeply into some of these areas that we did in main seminar with the discovery group. 

We are starting to open areas here that we will look in depth at in April where you are finding, inventing expressions of your individuality, your consciousness on the earth plane. 

You are becoming conscious enough that as you explore here we are sort of beyond where we have experience, is the right word but we use it too many ways, where we have sort of a way to respond.  Or we think, okay, we have this experience, then this is the next thing to do, or this is the way I should be looking at this and so on.  And that is what DaBen means by inventing; inventing your expression as you have this consciousness. 

One of the elements that will be key to that and to many areas that we explore is opening the portal.  We began that two seminars ago in a very light way with the layers of light beings, and they even invited us into their energy realm, if that is the right word, through the portal, so that we have some sense of other than earth plane energies, at least through four groups of beings now.  At least five, but two in which we rarely call out that were introduction to us for the layers of light beings.  So we have some experience. 

One of DaBen’s main goals now is that we open that portal, so that there is the potential for beings that he and other groups of beings invite to contribute to consciousness on the earth plane.  Not only our consciousness, but consciousness of the planet, of the plane in general, so that there is a greater connection, not just to humans but beyond that into the whole interaction, so that perhaps as we do that we gain a greater understanding of that. 

Given that as one of DaBen’s goals, one of the things he would like to do, at least in the next journey and maybe in the one beyond as well, is to get the seed group to really look in depth at this purity energy that we played with in the third group of beings, looking at pure energy, at the purity of that, at how clear it is or can be. 

I think that, at least for me, things have gotten a greater precision and clarity, a greater sense of connection as I played with these beings.  So let us see if we as a group cannot open that energy as well, open to playing there. 

In the main group, and we probably will play in the discovery group, but in the main group DaBen did not want to go too deep in that energy because it tends to draw you in more completely.  So as you play here just let yourself be open to being drawn in to a deeper experience. 

I have found that it is very easy when I come back to resume the way that I experience my energy, and often it is like, oh, I really did not want to come all that way back, I would like to retain a little. 

So it is balancing, it is finding a way to balance, much as we did in the first journey this afternoon, finding that balance, finding a way to be in both ways, in both experiences.  Or as DaBen would remind me, assimilate.  Begin to assimilate this energy in a way that is very natural for us.  That we can choose to initiate the process, but we do not complete it consciously, it happens.  But you choose to initiative it, or can choose to initiate it.

Okay.  I think that is all we need in terms of introduction.  Let yourself just be in that energy.  These beings are very open as a group, very embracing as a group.  We are coming as a group, and you can have individual interactions with the group and occasionally with individuals, but mostly they are about group energy. 

Okay, get comfortable for a journey. 

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Program 06 LB975X_06J DaBen: Exploring with pure beings, setting space, opening the portal

DaBen:  Welcome.

We are very interested in learning how to open this portal using your energy in more and more powerful and effective ways, so that we have the possibility to take advantage of these energies, to have these energies available on the earth plane. 

So connecting with your guide now and moving to the light body, and using the light body as a doorway to open to these beings, to this energy. 

And with your guide moving even more completely into that portal energy, for you are able now to recognize and be in this energy and be recognized and invited by these beings. 

And let yourself play by finding the pure energies that express your experience, your beingness, your experience, in more basic forms, in more clear and pure energies, reassembling your experience with these light energies, these lights, this light experience. 

Good.  And now, as an individual and yet a part of a group, begin by bringing together some of these pure energies that you have now experienced, and soon you will be assisted by others from the seed group in assembling an experience of the seed group as being a member, an individual in the seed group, creating out of these pure energies a sense of your part of this group, as you begin to organize these pure energies to represent, to express, to communicate. 

Let these beings respond as a group as well in bringing their contribution in light to this group, to the seed group, so that they are adding with their expertise this is who they are, adding pure energies in just the right places to enhance your experience of you as an individual and your part in this group and their contribution and your contribution in giving them an opportunity to play and assist in this way. 

For they take this activity, these activities very seriously, in a very sacred way, making contributions, recommendations, suggestions, adding a completeness as they see it to this work of art of this group, of this pure energy, where only pure energies, only what we have called frequencies are used. 

And at a felt sense, at an energy sense, at even an emotional sense let yourself be drawn into their and your activity and of the seed group’s activity, building together an expression in light, in experience of light. 

And noticing the qualities of light that you can experience here, and their, for lack of a better word, impact on your sense of yourself and group self, to have such a strong, clean, clear, bright light at the center of your being as a group, and by reference as you as an individual.

Good.  And just bring that to a close now by enjoying this space and thanking these beings for their assistance in opening these energies. 

Good.  And as a group expressing our gratitude for their assistance in playing in this way as you come back now to the seed group and the light body, the light body level, and notice any changes in your experience. 

Good.  And now, having played in this way, recognize that you and these beings have broadened the range of possibilities for the portal, and opened the portal, as it were, to a broader range of energies and patterns, and that you as a seed group have created an opportunity for your greater exploration, both as a group and as individuals. 

Good. And letting that go now, coming back to your experience of the light body, thanking your guide, and coming back to the time and space of the earth plane. 

And with that, we bid you most pleasant journeys for now.  

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Program 07 LB975X_07T Duane: Talk

Duane:  You did very well with that, so let us use the same group, but a different group of beings, the constancy energy that we have been exploring.  Let us just set a space, assist what DaBen usually does about now, set the space for the discovery group tomorrow, so that we have a base constancy of that energy that we will build on in a variety of ways. 

Sort of like the way we began the seminar, looking at emotional flow and mental fluidity and physical ease and that flow, so that we have that as a foundation, so we can really explore and go more deeply into the energy. 

Okay, I think that is all we need in introduction, so get comfortable for a journey.  This will be short. 

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Program 08 LB975X_08J DaBen: Exploring with constancy beings, opening the portal

DaBen:  Welcome. 

And we welcome your assistance in setting that energy and space, so that with your setting this energy and your being a part of that energy of the discovery group that we can go more deeply and fully into that energy, into all of our explorations, for we have a truly exciting opportunity to go more deeply into assimilating, into your experience, into the process, and experiencing the depth of that process, so that you have a sense of that flow and energy. 

Good.  And now, with your guide and coming from the light body find these beings, with your guide’s assistance following these shifts, this loving, constant energy assisting us in setting a base or foundation or consistent energy, a constant flow. 

Good.  And your connections with these individual beings deepening your flow from this constant energy, your sense of the being space which we have greatly expanded this seminar. 

Finding even additional ways in which to form your experience, your pattern, and even as a part of the seed group group pattern into that constancy, folding those higher vibrations into the components at the constancy. 

Good.  And just letting that go now, being your experience, thanking these beings, coming back from the portal energy.  It is becoming more and more familiar to you, energies that are other than earth plane giving you perspective and experiential light experience beyond just earth plane energies.

Good.  And just letting that go now, thanking your guide, coming back to the time and space of the earth plane. 

And with that, we bid you most pleasant journeys for now. 

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