Transcripts of DaBen's Transforming with Light Seminar
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Seminar Journeys (J) and Talks (T)

We are providing these transcripts as a way to assist you in understanding DaBen's instructions. The spoken word is different than when it is presented in writing, and these are not intended to take you into the light body spaces. We do not guarantee that these are perfect transcriptions of the journeys, nor are they intended to be. The journeys and talks given at the seminar will be posted as transcribed by our transcriber. Transcripts when complete will be put into PDF format several months after the seminar, and can be downloaded so you can read it on your computer or print it out.

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Program 01 LB975Y_01T Duane: Talk and Welcome
Program 02 LB975Y_02J DaBen: Vibrational energy body experience with being space like constancy
Program 03 LB975Y_03T Duane: Talk
Program 04 LB975Y_04J DaBen: Being space, spanning to physical and layers of light
Program 05
LB975Y_05T Duane: Talk
Program 06 LB975Y_06J DaBen: Assimilating, a tour of consciousness energy
Program 07 LB975Y_07T Duane: Talk
Program 08 LB975Y_08J DaBen: Holding your light experiences softly
Program 09 LB975Y_09T Duane: Talk
Program 10 LB975Y_10J DaBen: Evolving, varied perspectives, process to assimilating a possibility
Program 11 LB975Y_11T Duane: Talk
Program 12 LB975Y_12J DaBen: Exploring non-fixity, from experience as light, light body to higher personality
Program 13 LB975Y_13T Duane: Talk
Program 14 LB975Y_14J DaBen:Discovering portal energy, as energy, using layers of light beings
Program 15 LB975Y_15T Duane: Talk
Program 16 LB975Y_16J DaBen: Discovering your light using portal openings


Program 01 LB975Y_01T Duane: Talk and Welcome

Duane:  Okay.  As discovery group we are going to go a little deeper into some of the areas we did in the main seminar and little further into some of the experiences, seeing if we as a group and as individuals can go more deeply into an experience of assimilating, what that might be like, of what the senses are in that process, the felt sense, your whole sort of sense of who you are, how that changes, how that opens.

Seeing if we can open sort of another way in which you perceive your energy, your presence, the energy that you are in and around, both through time and in location level, as many elements of your ability to experience as we can.  Not to hold them all at once, but have them as ready perspectives on your beingness, your presence.

So let us start in this first journey with looking at physical, physical sensation.  We have done that over the years to varying degrees.  You have a level of perception and sense now, a level of skill that should enable you to go much more deeply into that experience.  And not only deeply, but in a way that you can recognize what you have brought in, what you have assimilated in this energy, in your beingness. 

I guess a simple way to put in language what we are doing in this series of four seminars over these two years is to really gain a fuller and fuller sense of your complete, or as complete as you can perceive it now, energy, so that you have that whole process readily available for your experience. 

Okay.  Now, as you play in this way, as DaBen guides you, makes suggestions, if you find that you get really absorbed in an experience then just stay with that.  Let what DaBen is asking or showing you, suggesting that you play with the energies, just let that be a background part.  It will begin to be included in what it was that drew your attention, that captured your attention for that time.  So this becomes sort of a continuous flow of your experience. 

Okay. I think that is all we need in terms of introduction, so get comfortable for a journey.

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Program 02 LB975Y_02J DaBen: Vibrational energy body experience with being space like constancy

DaBen:  Welcome. 

Exploring now, using just the right way in which to be in this energy at this moment. 

Good.  And connecting with your guide now, and asking your guide to assist you in opening as many parts of your awareness, so that you can easily notice more and more of the energy that is there, that is a part of your ability to experience at any moment. 

And in this journey let us play with being able to find as many of those ways of experiencing as possible, but not all at the same time.  Choosing, being very discriminating on how you bring your awareness, and that all the areas that you might choose to experience are readily available, if even for a moment. 

Moving to the light body now, the light body cocoon. 

Good.  And paying even more attention to these variations now as we focus more fully and completely on the fine vibrations.  Let us begin with the fine vibrations of your ability to experience your physical being, your body on the earth plane. 

Not in its entirety of the vast consciousnesses, but enough that you are able to experience a sensation perhaps, some vibration perhaps, some tingling, some sense of physicalness beyond just the sensations of being in this room, in the room in which you are in as you listen to this, the air and the air movement, the temperature, the pressure of gravity and drawing you into whatever you are sitting on or laying on, and that sensation in a more kinesthetic sense of that touch and pressure. 

Beyond that to a vibration, a sensation of that vibrancy in a physical being, at the same sort of level of the being space. 

Good.  And now notice the connections at the vibrational energy body level as you span back from the light body to the vibrational energy bodies. 

And as you notice this physical vibration, this sort of physical extension even of the being space. 

And extending that now to emotional flow, notice the interconnection at the light level, at this being space sort of vibrational level, and the sense of vibration or frequency or patterns of light that are formed out of this sense of being space at an emotional flow level. 

Extending that now to mental fluidity.  Just a small additional increment of that opening of that connection to a sense of being creates an opportunity for, and, for lack of a better term, the vehicle for thoughts to form and be experienced or noticed by you in both a physical and emotional and intellectual mental way.

Holding your experience in such a way now that you are able to find the being space-like experiences of emotional flow and mental fluidity, physical ease, in enough depth to notice variations and the dynamic nature of that experience, and yet also a constancy, a consistent quality of those flows, emotional flow, the vibration of physical ease, the smooth and easy forming and dissolving of thoughts, forming and dissolving. 

Good.  And just letting that go now, having that as sort of a baseline experience that you could return to, or return to it in its form at the moment you return.  So that you have a ready experience of your vibrational energy bodies, of the flow, the being space constancy experience level of the vibrational energy bodies. 

Good.  And just letting that go now, coming back to an experience of the light body, experiencing the light body even more fully and completely as light.  Much of the experiences that you have of the light body, a felt sense or even this vibration, begin to be able to be experienced as light as well. 

Good.  And now thanking your guide and smoothly and easily coming back to the time and space of the earth plane. 

And with that, we bid you most pleasant journeys for now. 
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Program 03 LB975Y_03T Duane: Talk

Duane:  Okay.  We are going to return to the being space with this enhanced experience you have of that opening and see if we cannot find a way to bring that experience into your core energy.  Not something you to go, but a sense of you at core. 

We have played sometimes with sort of flipping our perspective around, so that now we are going to be trying even more diligently to not view it from your physical presence, but your physical presence as a result of your beingness.  So that your perspective instead of sort of automatically going to earth plane, physical presence, that is just a part of your being. 

We have played a lot with shifting that perspective, and at this level it should be very easy to do that.  Then we will just practice it enough that you will be able to easily choose or notice the choice that you have made and choose whichever works best for you in that moment. 

Okay.  I think that is all we need. 

Spanning, you got pretty good with spanning.  We were at the light body level spanning back to the vibrational energy bodies without meshing the two together, so that they are distinct experiences that you can have at the same time, so that you are experiencing those levels without bringing them together.  We will be doing more of that, only probably more quickly in this next journey.

Just notice, it is a skill you have, just remember how you hold that experience. 

Okay, get comfortable for a journey. 
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Program 04 LB975Y_04J DaBen: Being space, spanning to physical and layers of light

DaBen:  Welcome. 

Connecting with your guide now, noticing that the vibrational energy body level, the vibration, the sensations, the flow of emotions, the sense of well-being with that flow, the ease of being physical, of having that emotional flow, of being in such a way that thoughts form and dissolve, are a part of your space, your being, your presence on the earth plane, defined and open. 

Moving to the light body now, the light body cocoon, the cocoon comfortably far out so that you have lots of volume to experience, even to smaller and smaller levels of detail of experience, but able to hold that entire volume comfortably in your awareness. 

Good.  And noticing the frequencies here, those pure energies, and we were playing with beings that bring all of their experiences to pure energies. 

Good.  And now, moving to the being space, extending out into that energy now, and be as much a part of the being space, as fully engaged in your experience as possible, an experience of the being space. 

Let it translate to light as well and notice the qualities of that light.  There is a constancy here different than the one that we played with with the beings, but a constancy, a vibration, a harmonious bringing together of patterns and full experience of your being and consciousness. 

And spanning now your being in the being space, your experience here, as though you were spanning, move back to your experience as you in the light body, so your experience of the being space and being a part of that consciousness, consciousness as the being space spanning to your consciousness as your being in the light body, having some association with time and space and earth plane. 

In such a way that you are able to be in the being space and notice it as completely as you can and still have some ability to span back to your being in the light body, your presence on the earth plane in its time and space, in its consciousness of your consciousness of your being conscious of the being space. 

Play with balancing now between perspectives of the being space and noticing your being, your presence on the earth plane, and your presence on the earth plane experiencing being able to reach the being space and be in that space.  Find the balance that is best for your expansive experience at this moment. 

Good.  Now to the degree that you can recall, remember, even to some degree recreate, your experiences in light, of being with the layers of light beings, of the opening that you have accomplished and been a part of with the portal, particularly the layers of light beings.  You might even play some of the layers of light to attract those beings and to enjoy the harmonies of the light show that you create together. 

And span from that experience to the earth plane being that you are, to the being space, to your being able to choose whichever is the primary focus, or spanning between them so that you are spanning with that focus.  Choosing, being truly at choice as to which or how many of those spaces become your primary experience. 

Enjoy the harmonics with the layers of light beings now and your ability to move between or to hold all at once that consciousness of the being space, of all consciousness, in enough detail and depth to truly be an experience.  To refine the light that expresses, that captures that experience, and to be you or your presence on the earth plane, and to be this advanced being that is able to reach the layers of light beings and perceive their energy, and to play back and forth and the harmonies that you share. 

Now, just letting that go, and smoothly and easily thanking the layers of light beings, and smoothly and easily coming back to the light body, the light body cocoon.  And just noticing and releasing that awareness of your physical presence on the earth plane, just being for a moment the light body. 

And then releasing the being space, bringing your attention to being at the light body level, connected with your guide.  And notice as your experiences change in each of these refocusing the shifts of your experience, the light of your experience. 

Good.  And thanking your guide now and noticing the experiences, the light of your experiences, as you come back to the time and space of the earth plane. 

Good.  And with that now coming back fully and completely, we bid you most pleasant journeys for now. 
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Program 05 LB975Y_05T Duane: Talk

Duane:  It was fun to watch you move into those spaces in this last journey, be in that energy. 

I keep saying this and it keeps reaching a new level of achievement, and that is not quite the right word, but we are getting to place now where we can place our consciousness in ways that make significant differences in the way you are able to perceive and be in the energy and hold these spaces. 

So as you do this, things that in the past might have been difficult to get your consciousness around or to hold become easier and easier here.  It is as though we have reached base level of consciousness that now we can go all sorts of places.  And the portal I think will enable that even more as we explore here.

As you look at this energy just recognize that where you may have drawn boundaries in the past because it seemed sort of beyond your ability, re-look at that.  It might be easily within your ability now, easily reachable at your consciousness.  Just explore, see what is there. 

Even if you get just a glimpse of some of that energy you have the expression now, experiencing as light, you have that expression as light that has so much more information to it, so much more that you can use to span, as we were doing in the last journey, between very different levels. 

So as you play, see if we cannot let go of some of these things we have learned in the past as where our limits were, because they are changing.  Your skill, your ability to sense is changing that. 

Okay.  One of the processes that is involved I think in that change is assimilating.  We reached experientially in the main seminar some pretty nice levels of assimilating.  DaBen was going to describe things a lot more than he needed to because you and the main group really got into those spaces. 

So let us in the next journey really expand further into those spaces, and to just notice the process of assimilation, the process of assimilating, what it is at an experiential level, and hopefully never even need to go to attempt to put it into our language because we have got this light now. 

It is partly a you-can-initiative-it level, so you could have a desire at a personality level even to make this a part of who you are.  You could initiate it in that way.  Or you could discover something that really attracted you, like with the constancy beings or with the layers of light beings and the harmonies that you are able to play there that really attracted you, that you were drawn to make that a part of who you are at your basic energy level, so that begins the process of assimilation. 

And then the process is you then acting with consciousness in those areas, so that you have an opportunity to be in the process of assimilating that.  It is not a decision that I am going to assimilate this and then you make it conscious all the way through.  It becomes a way you use the energy.  It just becomes the way you are in that energy.  And so it is the process that we are after here. 

Now, another way to describe that distinction is to use language in this way, particularly assimilating, a verb and action sort of thing, our left brain turns it into an active activity sort of process, something that you could act on, something you could do.

When in actual process, in the way lots of those things happen, even things that we accomplish at a manifesting level, things happen as a natural by-product, a natural sort of side effect of other activities.  Creativity is often that way.  You are interested in something and you start thinking about it, and you start thinking about other things, but you are opening that as a process, you are opening that as a part of your consciousness, and then the creativity in the area you were looking at just happens.  It is there, it just occurs. 

Assimilating is like that in many ways, that you keep revisiting consciousness that enables that assimilation to happen.  But you are not making it happen,  You are not changing who you are in that way.  Pretty soon it just is who you are because you have assimilated these energies by the consciousness that you have applied.  But the consciousness that you have been working on may have nothing that you directly could be aware that was even related. 

So just as a softness to that structure.  And we will look at that in a couple journeys in the next few days.  But let us right now look at assimilating and just play with it.  DaBen is going to give you an energy tour of what that might feel like. 

Okay, get comfortable for a journey. 
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Program 06 LB975Y_06J  DaBen: Assimilating, a tour of consciousness energy

DaBen:  Welcome. 

Finding that point of light of the Fullonia and moving into the light body with as much awareness and power as you can, and connecting with your guide. 

Good.  And just be aware, even moving perhaps to the being space, but aware of your experiences as light of that space, of its certain flow and rhythm, its constancy and its extreme dynamic, its fluidity in time, its connection, for lack of a better more expansive term, all consciousness. 

Assimilating consciousness, assimilating this energy that is or can become or will become or might become consciousness by being in this presence of the being space, or being in the being space, or having connection to the being space, or consciousness of any variety has the potential of opening for you assimilating. 

And consciousness that might become consciousness, might become consciousness in your ability to transform, to bring about a certain order, a certain way in which those energies interact.  And you might add a certain order and have that be a process that you then assimilate or not.  Maybe something you enjoyed doing for the sake of creating, an energy of a certain style, a certain pattern, or it may be energy that you find so attractive you would like to incorporate that, as it were, as a part of your beingness.

And your consciousness is not a static thing.  It is in a constant flux, acquiring and releasing to some degree, and releasing a different way, and acquiring.  And often as you bring new consciousness into your awareness the ways in which you have been conscious shift in response to that.  Certainly as you assimilate that your consciousness adjusts to this new consciousness. 

And part of your beingness on the earth plane is continually adjusting, enhancing your experience, your beingness on the earth plane as a field of play.  And as you gain more ability to span these levels and view more from these higher levels, in many ways you are borrowing or sharing consciousness with other beings, other humans perhaps, but certainly other beings of different and higher natures. 

For the levels that you are reaching there are lots of beings that would hold a consciousness that you might operate it, so to speak, to try it on maybe.  And then if you enjoy the way it creates a shift in your field of play presence on the earth plane, or your light signature that we will play with, then you will begin the process of assimilating that energy. 

Good.  Just use that energy, beginning to notice what you can experience in this way implies about the boundaries, or lack thereof, of your consciousness in both meanings.  “Your” becomes “shared” becomes “all consciousness” in very subtle and soft ways.  There is not a fixed boundary that you might have thought there was.  There is an individuality that is a part of the larger group, and that is part of a larger group, part of a larger, part of all consciousness.

To the degree that you are able to be aware of certain levels of consciousness you can enjoy that consciousness in sort of a shared sense or a universal sense or just in that moment even.  And assimilating then becomes taking that on and establishing some sense of this is you, and yet there is a part of you that knows that that you is a very temporary sort of construct, very useful on the earth plane and your viability on the earth plane.

So assimilating becomes this process now that is very open and dynamic at a different time scale, if that is an appropriate term, time, here, but at a different energy scale.  Assimilating becomes a process of forming and also of dissolving consciousness that you work with, that you create, that you improve, that you make more conscious.  And that this level of vibration that you had is not lost even when you choose to change your consciousness, so to speak. 

As you explore in this way you can become more conscious of the very nature of consciousness, and to recognize that in the way you use that word that it makes sense to you that there is a variety of energies that become grouped together in your language. 

So let us look at one aspect of that energy of which you call consciousness, and eventually we will be able to make that energy distinct enough for you to identify, or another way you will be able to be conscious enough in this way to identify this type of energy, the energy that you can assimilate. 

A type of energy that you can have and share as consciousness, as ways in which to be able to form new ways of using and operating, for lack of a better term, that energy, to interact with that energy. 

To be conscious in this way, to be able to have a grasp of the nature of that energy and where that energy then goes along this whole spectrum of levels from the vast consciousnesses of your physical being to the highest imaginations that you can bring about at an intellectual level, or the highest spaces that you can reach in joining other beings as they show you enough of a way the energy is organized. 

Perhaps in that level, at that level, enough of a consciousness organization, enough of a sort of form that you could call them beings, and have called them such, and that they can interact and intersect and form associations and shift your consciousness and be shifted by your shift of consciousness, a sharing of this energy form, some of which will assimilate into a consciousness that you most commonly recognize.  Others will remain as an energy supporting that consciousness. 

As you explore this energy recognize that each of the beings that we have played with, interacted with, honored and enjoyed in this particular seminar have aided you in reaching the ability to experience consciousness in this way, the being space and the constancy and the flow and the pure energies and the interactions and the harmonies. 

To recognize the energy of consciousnesses dynamic and organized in certain ways, forming and reforming and reforming, and building into more and more expressions of that energy, more and more what you can now experience as light, and more and more variations on that light, more subtleties and finer patterns and distinctions. 

Assimilating is a part of this process, and dissolving and assimilating and adjusting the consciousness that you, this energy that is your consciousness.

Good.  We have just begun to explore, and it is very exciting for us to see how much of that energy you are able to use and form patterns and associations with.  There is a great potential of where we can go, where you can go, where we as a group can go. 

Good.  And now just letting that go and coming back to the light body, the light body cocoon.  And thanking your guide, coming back smoothly and easily. 

And with that, we bid you most pleasant journeys for now. 


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Program 07 LB975Y_07T Duane: Talk

Duane:  We are going to continue that similar sort of exploration and hold it in a way that would be perhaps easier to translate into light, easier even to some degree find language for.  But certainly the reason for doing the way in which DaBen will be encouraging you, and we have played a lot in the past with holding this very softly, is to not let the distinctions that we are used to making in ordinary reality in our intellect, to not let those distinctions, firm boundaries, or at least perceived boundaries, limit where your consciousness can go, where you attention can flow, where you place emphasis in that attention.  So that you let it be more fluid.

In the main seminar for a while we talked about your experiencing and experiencing as light and sort of getting this experience and then another experience and another experience and not trying to connect them.  For the rest of the day maybe we can try that here as well. 

So you have an experience, and another experience, but you do not spend much time or energy really noticing connections.  In more earth plane terms, really not exercising cause and effect; I had this experience and this experience came, so this must have created this experience, and the story we begin to weave around all of that.  Just try not to do that. 

Just let them be individual experiences, or even just individual impressions of light that is your translation of experience.  You will collect them, your consciousness will collect them in a way that then you have more options.  Not conscious options initially, but eventually more conscious options in which to interpret your experiences. 

Okay, get comfortable for a journey. 
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Program 08 LB975Y_08J  DaBen: Holding your light experiences softly

DaBen:  Welcome. 

Good.  And returning now to the light body, the light body cocoon, connecting with your guide. 

Good.  And noticing the patterns and the light within the light body cocoon now that you can make that sort of a soft focus, so that movements and light, movement of this light, patterns that form are perceived in a felt sense or a visual sense but very softly.  Not blurry in that they are out of focus, but soft as though they are not quite distinct, that they share boundaries, or their boundaries fade away.

As you explore in this way span back to the vibrational energy bodies and hold the distinctions of emotional flow and mental fluidity in a very soft way as well, so that there is an interaction, a blending, not an entanglement, but a blending of the flow of those energies.  And extending that softness to physical ease now. 

And look in more detail now at that softness, of forming and dissolving of thoughts, the flow of one emotion to the next.  Letting that softness, that soft focus extend to a natural rhythm between those two, emotions and thoughts and their flow, their creation of an environment of ease for the physical level, the vast consciousnesses. 

Good.  Returning now to the light body and just being in this soft, indistinct, blended energy. 

Good.  And just letting that go now, and watching the energy as you come back reform to more distinct, more separate energies as it naturally will and as you are used to ordinary reality being. 

Thanking your guide now and coming back smoothly and easily.  And with that, we bid you most pleasant journeys for now. 


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Program 09 LB975Y_09T Duane: Talk

Duane:  All right.  In these next journeys we are going to let DaBen take us on a tour of some of the extensions of the things we have been playing with, looking at evolving perhaps in a different way than we have played, certainly at energy in a different way than we have been playing with it, seeing where we work with that, what areas there are to include, and from that move into a more experiential look, as deep as we can get experientially at this point in time. 

That will open as we go, but look at what DaBen has called non-fixity, and that may not be a term that lasts very long for us.  It is that sense of openness, that an extension or a similar sort of experience to what we played with last, and that is that very soft, no hard boundaries between your experiences, between the things you experience, and playing with that some more. 

In the main seminar we looked at that a little bit, and at some point we are going to play more with this constancy, these beings that hold that particular space.  We are going to play with the sort of dichotomy that at one level that creates.  But as you go deeper into an experience then that sort of lack of fixity, that sort of softness between the layers begins to be a part of the energy, a part of that constancy as well.  We need to expand into another sense of energy to do that, but we will get to that.

Okay.  I think that is all we need in terms of introduction.  Evolving.  Get comfortable for a journey. 
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Program 10 LB975Y_10J DaBen: Evolving, varied perspectives, process to assimilating a possibility

DaBen:  Welcome. 

So now let us explore with your ability to experience as light now, let us explore your evolving consciousness, your being in evolving consciousness, in and of evolving consciousness.  And having explored in relation to a process of that evolving, assimilating these energies, this consciousness, let us look more in depth now at an experience of evolving. 

Good.  And setting that energy, connecting with your guide, and notice in our discussing and mentioning holding the energy of that process, that concept, that natural part of the energy, begin to set in your experience the possibilities of your experience of the light that would be involved in expressing those experiences and the process of forming an experience. 

Connecting with your guide now, moving to the light body, the light body cocoon. 

Good.  With your guide now notice the ways in which you can experience these flows, these energies that we have been holding for you to explore, and how it is you might explore them, these pure energies, frequencies of a different nature, as it were, a few very small points of light somewhere within your cocoon. 

Just create an opening for them anywhere within your cocoon, close together or further apart.  Begin perhaps with three and there might be maybe ten. 

And as you with your guide explore what these energies, these small points of light become as you bring your consciousness to them, and how your consciousness evolves, as it were, to sense, to be conscious of, to notice detail, to open, to play with scale and size and the scope of the energies, these energies, gifts of those beings of pure energy, in recognition or your having played with them, visited them, absorbed an ability to evolve into that purity. 

And here evolving is looking at consciousness and making shifts in that consciousness, creating new consciousness.  And to one degree or another your experience as light here, open the possibility of it assimilating into your consciousness or group consciousness or consciousness in general, your unique ways of handling, exploring, matching, incorporating these points of light. 

Good.  And now, begin to form ways that these points of light may interact with one another and with frequencies within your cocoon, creating more light.  And now we are moving to evolving beyond just change, but in creating, in expanding to create possibilities, exploring energy potentials, exploring how it is that you are able to create an experience in this way and to express that as light. 

Good.  With the energy of that creating now, of exploring, of finding patterns of interactions, releasing energy, consuming energy, a balance of new energy and uses of energy in new ways, and familiar energies used to assist in your experience.  Evolving these light interactions, creating opportunities for new energy, for transforming existing consciousness, creating a possible opportunity for assimilating, setting it up in just the right way to be new consciousness. 

Good.  And letting that go now.  Just letting your experience of playing with the light in this way be whatever it is, however your experience holds it.  It may continue to evolve or you may never notice it again.  Either is fine.  Be as a part of that experience. 

Good.  And now, letting those points of light just be.  They will either fade or evolve into something that you will use.  So just letting that go and coming back to the light body cocoon, expanding out, thanking your guide, and then smoothly and easily coming back to the time and space of the earth plane. 

And with that, we bid you most pleasant journeys for now. 
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Program 11 LB975Y_11T Duane: Talk

Duane:  As we look at this energy and explore in this way look into your experience and see how more deeply you can experience, how more refined you can make the energy, the light that you are experiencing, you have a felt sense of.  Not necessarily more patterns in a visual way, if you are seeing it visually, but that overall sense of flow could or should have additional aspects to it. 

Just look, play, and see what you can develop there.  Your senses are developing and DaBen would like you to explore those even more. 

Okay, get comfortable for a journey. 
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Program 12 LB975Y_12J DaBen: Exploring non-fixity, from experience as light, light body to higher personality

DaBen:  Welcome. 

Exploring now that connection with your guide.  What edges are there in that connection that you do not need to notice that energy, to be in that energy, to experience completely that energy?  In fact maybe you can experience it more completely with softer edges, a non-fixedness to its nature, for all of this is dynamic, and it remains dynamic even if your experience is then only limited to those dynamics that are longer lasting. 

Good.  And now moving to the light body in a very solid experience now, so that the energies that you are noticing are of a greater vibrancy, these patterns. 

So that as you play with softening those edges and look at how they change, how one influences another pattern, influences another, how their interactions are just a part of the dance that happens in these energies.  A dance that you can choose to notice or not, and here we are choosing to notice and to look into those boundaries between the energies, to notice that there is a lack of boundary the way it first appears. 

There is a constant interchange of light and information, of patterns influencing patterns, and the influence that ripples across the entire light body eventually.  Adjust each of the parts of the light body cocoon as you experience them. 

Good.  And now with this experience, holding this as a part of your experience now and spanning back to vibrational energy bodies, and even to the high personality, so that you have that level. 

And just notice any thoughts that are there, particularly about thoughts the way the matter or flow of energy within your ordinary reality, and how those edges can be very firm, very fixed, very clear perhaps as to the way the energy should be or feel, what your experience should be for sure. 

And use the experience you just had with softening those edges, making them less fixed.  Can the same energy still operate in a way that accomplishes the energy pattern or setup, even the form that you expect or desire? 

Can those energies as you experience them as light in particular, or as thoughts, possible thoughts, possible alterations in those thoughts, can this become less fixed at this personality level? 

Spanning back to the light body, the light body cocoon now, experiencing the fluidity of these energies, reminding your experience as to how fluid these energies can be at the light body level so that you can translate some of the essence of that fluidity, the way light moves in and of each other, the way it interacts, and sometimes does not interact and passes right through. 

And moving back to the high personality level now and resuming that energy or picking another area and letting the boundaries soften, then become non-fixed. 

And notice as you do that, that light that you experience, or your experience as light, can open your experience of emotional flow and mental fluidity and physical ease to a greater and greater sense of well-being, perhaps even bordering on the sense that life is good, or everything is the way it should be, true realization that the universe is friendly, that your creation can be experienced in this way at the light body level, at higher personality level, this non-fixity in your experience.  Spanning these two levels, and we could go beyond. 

Good.  And coming back to the light body now and just letting that span to the higher personality, just letting that go, having gained that experience playing in that way. 

Good.  And just letting that go now, being in this energy, enjoying this energy. 

Good.  And now thanking your guide and letting yourself come back to the time and space of the earth plane, smoothly and easily. 

It is our pleasure to watch your skill in playing at this level in this depth of experience. 

Coming back smoothly and easily, and with that, we bid you most pleasant journeys for now. 


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Program 13 LB975Y_13T Duane: Talk

Duane:  First of all, you are doing very, very well, your skills as individuals and as a group, and we may look a little more at group, use it to assist us tomorrow in looking at your light signature, so we may use group more.

But it is as though for each additional little shift we make now in consciousness our abilities are increased exponentially.  It is as though what we can do now, what DaBen was able to show you this time in just really little small energy glimpses, you went with. 

The whole concept of experiencing as light I thought would take us some time.  You had it by the second journey.  It was no problem.  It was just flowing.  Watching your energy, even afterwards, watching you clairvoyantly it was like the usual struggle with language was gone.  It was just marvelous. 

So we have got this capability now, and so now that we have got the skill to be an airplane or be a sky liner or what are some of these spaceships called, now that we have these vehicles with warp drive maybe we really can explore what we can do with them, what experience we can have, and let DaBen really guide us on staying just at the edge of where we can take our consciousness and enjoy that. 

Maybe that is what assimilation, assimilating, this seminar and the next two are about.  I look at those titles every once in a while and say, oh, living on the earth as light.  Okay, we have got some ways to go before that is going to have solidity, the words have solidity to the meaning we can experience.  After this seminar I am thinking, well, maybe we can do it next seminar. 

Just begin to explore your limits.  And most of the limits that we think we have are dissolved.  Just find out where the new ones are, at least for that meditation.  Just keep exploring.  We are doing great. 

Now, in a way to assist us we are playing with non-earth plane energies.  In some ways they are beyond earth plane energies, in others I think that they are beings, perhaps planet-based, perhaps not.  I asked the constancy beings a little bit, I have played with them a lot, and I think they answered me but I did not understand a single real concept.  Yes, there is a planet maybe, but it is energy.  So maybe they talk about their planet as energy, or maybe they do not have one, or maybe it is just energy they have coalesced out of their constancy. 

We do not need to ask those questions.  We get our experience from what they have shown us.  We get that experience and we use it to expand our consciousness.  So we are using that to help us expand beyond earth plane limits, beyond cultural limits, beyond perhaps even spiritual limits that the earth plane has had. 

We will explore more as we get into the April seminar, we will explore more around that, but it really requires getting beyond the belief systems we have about culture.  And we will see if we cannot find a way to do that without triggering our own belief systems that we have by just being in the culture.  We will see if cannot do that. 

Okay.  In this next journey, and possibly the one after, we are going to look at portal in a bigger way.  And about three years ago or maybe four that was the theme that DaBen kept telling me; open the portal, find the energy, get this opening.  And you have done it now.  So let us really open that energy, let us really explore what is there for us. 

And we will play with a series of beings, or just energy.  We will use in this journey the layers of light beings as our opening tour guide, and then just play with experiencing energy without beings sponsoring per se, although we may use one or more of the ones we have met already, but to just play, see what we can do, you can do as a group, you can do as individuals, to that energy, non-earth plane energy. 

Now, there will not be, maybe in this journey but maybe not right away, an ability to tell the distinction.  See what you can develop.  What are the qualities of light, how does it change, so that you can play there, notice what is happening there. 

Okay.  Be inventive.  Let the softness and the non-fixity that we have been playing with work at this level as well. 

Okay, get comfortable for a journey. 


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Program 14 LB975Y_14J Discovering portal energy, as energy, using layers of light beings

DaBen:  Welcome. 

As a discovery group let us go on a discovery.  Let us find where our consciousness will take us now. 

Good.  And connecting with your guide.  It is a joy to watch the way you are setting these energies up now to move into these spaces, so rich, so varied, so intricate in their various avenues, so to speak. 

So connecting with your guide and reaching to the light body, or expanding out into the light body with your capability now to just notice it and you are there. 

Good.  And now, just without even really looking, just sensing the frequencies that are here, perhaps a new clarity that is here, a new precision and interaction as you have played with that energy to open these spaces. 

Very good.  So let us begin as an experience of you being an individual, the individual you are, and holding open the possibility that there may be a point that your awareness of the discovery group, both those here at this time and those who will be listening later, including perhaps you listening later, to use that group energy. 

Very good.  Now, begin playing those layers of light, drawing the layers of light beings to you, playing your experience right now, your essence right now.  At the very instant that you begin your playing you are playing your essence as it is experienced as light right now, and you are building into that light show for these beings a new vibrancy for you

Good.  And now, asking these layers of light beings to assist you in moving just a small ways in through that portal into this different energy, into this non-earth plane energy. 

And notice perhaps that the quality of the light that you are generating as you play in this way shifts in some way.  It may, it may not.  If it does, notice the substance, the qualities of that difference. 

Good.  And now, following the harmonies of these beings, these layers of light beings, begin to just absorb this energy.  You may stop playing, these beings will support your presence, and just experience as light.  And these beings will be able to experience that light as well and assist you in noticing more detail, as it were, or assist you in opening additional patterns or frequencies, or you do not have a word for it, another sort of style energy, a sort of different consciousness that you can open. 

Good.  And looking for patterns here, looking for this style of energy, this opening, let us explore as individuals and as a group. 

So taking that experience of being in this space, of experiencing that as light, and find perhaps a constancy in this energy, much as the beings have shown you, and use that as a base.  You will find a sort of different spectrum of energies from that constancy as you move into your experience of this energy. 

You need not move deeply into the portal, you have all the energy you need here.  A sampling, a difference in the way it moves, this energy moves.  A constancy that as you add higher vibrations, as you add purer energy, you then get to a deeper, more intricate involvement of light. 

Different perhaps you can notice right away, different than the earth plane, in that some of the — we are reaching for what might be a language we could use — but just follow these shifts. 

So you reach that place in which the energy begins to be that pure energy based on a constancy, begins to take off as it did with the second group of beings that we played with.  It begins to develop patterns, but the way the patterns are connected here are different than earth plane.  They are more broadly connected, at least through this portal, so that the connections do not form in quite as serial a fashion, they form in a more broad, like-to-like, where like-to-like has some space associate with it, and within that space then other vibrations of a similar nature but a different harmonic begin to develop. 

So that the consciousness that you develop here has a broader implication and a challenge of space almost, whereas on the earth plane like attracts like more easily and yet does not have the harmonics. 

Just begin to explore in this way, to develop that opening.

In that quality of light now, in the learning to use to communicate with this light, use that expansion, that extra space, so to speak, of these connections to add your qualities within that space, the light that you experience and are, so that as you are in this energy you are bringing an additional harmonic, so to speak. 

And the layers of light beings assist you in finding the harmonies and the way to get all of this new pattern to be a part of and a nature of the consciousness that these energies are and will become. 

Good.  You are doing very well.  Just notice this energy as you have been playing, notice the energy that has built around you as an individual and we as a group.  The layers of light beings have increased in number, enjoying these harmonics that you are placing on these energies, finding connections and patterns. 

And finding your experience as light in a way that you will be able to hold it as a memory, as an experience, as you come back to the time and space of the earth plane. 

Good.  And just letting that go now, coming back to the light body, thanking these layers of light beings and all that you have explored and played with here. 

Good.  Thanking your guide now and then smoothly and easily coming back to the time and space of the earth plane. 

And with that, we bid you most pleasant journeys for now. 


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Program 15 LB975Y_15T Duane: Talk
Duane:  All right.  We have been opening a lot to these energies and I think we are being well-rewarded by just being carried.  It was almost in this journey as though wherever our energy took us there was opening.  So we will play with that again at some point. 

Okay.  As you explore, as you open in these energies, you are able to become in some ways more aware, more conscious of your energy nature as well.  And tomorrow and Wednesday we are going to explore a lot more about that as an opening. 

So let us just take based on these experiences that we have had in the discovery group, let us just take a little glimpse at that at a very high level, and then we will explore in more detail.  And perhaps in the next two days we will get to that high level or beyond, but let us see if we cannot set the flow right now for doing that. 

Okay, get comfortable for a journey. 
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Program 16 LB975Y_16J DaBen: Discovering your light using portal openings

DaBen:  Welcome. 

As you explore here, as you notice the ways in which you can be in this energy, let us take a look as discovery group at you as light, at your what we will call “light signature.” 

Good.  Finding that connection with your guide and moving to the light body and the light body cocoon, and letting the cocoon boundary dissolve so that the light of the light body just flows. 

Good.  Just watching the way in which you bring energies together in this flow, so that you can look at that way in which you have the light flow in the light body, flowing out, generating new light, gives you an opportunity perhaps to notice your light as a light body. 

To somehow from within your experience of the light body and the way the energy flows begin to get an impression, a light impression, a light experience, to let that light, your experience as light come about from the light itself.  So that your experience of this light, not just as this light, but in this particular way of this light, tends to give you an idea of your power, of your intensity, your light as consciousness, your uniqueness. 

Using that ability you explored in the portal to give you even more insight into the way this energy is brought together, like attracting like and the flow, the coherency of the pure energies, all giving you insights, as it were, into the nature of your light, so that you might see, experience, be the light of your interactions, not just your experience, but being the light of your interactions and your presence on the earth plane. 

Very good.  Let yourself enjoy that experience now. 

Very good.  And just letting that go now, coming back to the light body and letting the cocoon boundary form, coming back smoothly and easily, thanking your guide, and then coming back to the time and space of the earth plane. 

And with that, we bid you most pleasant journeys for now, and express our gratitude for your playing in this way and for the ease with which you are showing your skill. 

Coming back, and we bid you most pleasant journeys. 


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