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We are providing these transcripts as a way to assist you in understanding DaBen's instructions. The spoken word is different than when it is presented in writing, and these are not intended to take you into the light body spaces. We do not guarantee that these are perfect transcriptions of the journeys, nor are they intended to be. The journeys and talks given at the seminar will be posted as transcribed by our transcriber. Transcripts when complete will be put into PDF format several months after the seminar, and can be downloaded so you can read it on your computer or print it out.

Directory of Friday Programs 
Program 01 LB971E_01T Duane: Talk
Program 02 LB971E_02J DaBen: Luminous Light at Essence, Reaching Being
Program 03 LB971E_03T Duane: Talk
Program 04 LB971E_04J DaBen: Being as an Experience, Spanning Levels
Program 05 LB971E_05T Duane: Talk
Program 06 LB971E_06J DaBen: Being as a Space, Basic, First Look
Program 07 LB971E_07T Duane: Talk
Program 08 LB971E_08J DaBen: Being, Dynamic Skill, Delve into Depth of Experience
Program 09 LB971E_09T Sanaya Talk
Program 10 LB971E_10J Orin: Radiating Your True Beingness
Program 11 LB971E_11T Duane: Talk
Program 12 LB971E_12J DaBen: Being, Flipping Energy to Include Potential
Program 13 LB971E_13T Duane: Talk
Program 14 LB971E_14J DaBen: Being, Universe Level, Playing at Potential and Manifest Border
Program 15 LB971E_15T Duane: Talk
Program 16 LB971E_16J DaBen: Using Skill with Being Space to Discover Details of an Area of True Interest
Program 17 LB971E_17T Duane: Talk
Program 18 LB971E_18J DaBen: Being the Universe, Expand, Expand Beyond

Program 01 LB971E_01T Duane: Talk

Duane:  Welcome.  Good to see all of you here.  We have got some exciting spaces to go to, to play with.  And if you have been tuning in, and maybe at other times as well, you have probably found that DaBen finds each of you, and we will play even a little more in looking at how DaBen is able to do that, and how you will be able to do similar sorts of things as well.  

That finding each of you for the seminar, helping to set energy, helping you to open the space and so on, so the seminar we have said for a long time truly starts when you decide to come.  And we will look this time in some detail as to how that is possible on the earth plane and in the energies, so that as we explore you will get an even greater sense of that space.

We have been using the luminous body in the last series of seminars, we have been opening, using its energy to open energy in the light body, at the light body level, and at lower levels as well.  

We are going to play with luminous body, luminous light, in this seminar as well.  It will be a constancy, but not necessarily a focus where it was in the previous seminars.  

So as we look at this, if you find things getting a little closed down, DaBen will try to remember each time to remind you to bring luminous light in, to look at it, to use it to open energies.  But if you find that as you are doing the journey that it starts to lack a flow, or lack an ability to move out into that energy, see if you cannot notice more luminous light.

When we first looked at luminous light we looked at luminous body, and we played, pretended for a while that it was our luminous body.  And as we began as a group to open that energy more, we began to realize that we could move into that energy, but it was really a type of energy, that it was not like the light body per se, where we have another body per se.  It was energy we could move into, energy that could become so attuned with our being that we could regard it as our body, but that doing so closed off our opening into that larger space.  

So we began to look at it in that way, and that is what we are going to look at this time, as an opening into a larger space, as a way to open the energies, as a way to assist us in getting in the space that we will be looking at this time, so that you have that as another tool. 

We are going to be using the light body as our foundation again, as our base.  It is our energy, it is after we have become an individual, where luminous body can span that level, but it is not just of that level.  

So it is important as you look here to keep going back to that larger energy you are in.  And we have played with that in a variety of ways in previous seminars, and we will look at that in depth and in more detail as we play here.

At the last series of seminars sort of the concluding idea or concluding thought is that you are of and are in the energy, and you cannot get outside of that energy.  You are in this consciousness.  And we are going to play this time at looking at defining consciousness in more and more detail, at looking at levels, looking at layers, looking at ways consciousness works at the different layers, to both explore it as energy and to begin, perhaps, to expand a little bit from the intellectual conceptual side as well, so that you have a greater way of expressing that, so that you play in this at a larger concept area as well, so that you have some way of finding an expression even at an intellectual level.

So as we look this time, as we look at these spaces, as we open into this space, recognize that you have an experience that you have called you as an individual.  You have your focus of consciousness for sure.  But as we have been playing, more and more we have begun to look at levels that it becomes really hard pressed to find the boundary between you as a focus of consciousness and the consciousness that you are in, and to begin to look at that, begin to say ah, okay, I am sharing and this is a focus of consciousness, but I am not just an individual.

As we play at this level it becomes more and more difficult to be just that individual focus of consciousness, and as you expand out, then you gain a lot more of the energy.  And we will explore some this time as well — we looked a little last time but we will explore a lot more this time — as the power that comes with that, as the energy, the driving force of that consciousness, of evolving consciousness opens things for us.  

Okay.  This first journey will be a look at luminous body from the perspective we have now, from the skills we have now, and to just really make it a good opening review, reminder, integrating some of that luminous body energies, luminous light, into our experience, so that we have that as a beginning shared foundation for the journeys to come.

 Okay, get comfortable for a journey.    

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Program 03 LB971E_03T Duane Talk

Duane:  So being in that space.  We are going to use that space, that connection between luminous light in the last journey, in this next journey, in this exercise.

In this next journey DaBen is going to ask you to, from the level of the light body and above, to really explore what being means to you; how you experience it, what it means, what it is.  

And we have played a lot at various aspects of being.  We have looked at you as a focus of consciousness in some great depth.  You have that as a being.  We have looked at connections at a whole variety of levels in past seminars.  That is also being.  You can connect to that as being.  

In this next journey for the light body level, and even a little bit lower perhaps, what is your experience of being?  How dynamic is it?  It has to be somewhat dynamic because it has a certain flow, and it has a certain nature to the energy.  

Perhaps as you do this next journey DaBen is going to ask you to see how you might visualize, how you might gain some marker, some reference point, a visualization that might work for you.  And I encourage you to find your own, as just an opening of the back of the head and neck, just a presence that we have played with in very specific ways, that connects you to the flow of energy, to the presence of energy, to the presence of consciousness.  Not consciousness in any specific way, but just the whole nature of being.  

The nature of consciousness of your physical body; it’s there all the time as you explore.  It may become a smaller and smaller part in some journeys, but it is there, a part of your presence, as a part of your being as well in the time and space of the earth plane, the connections to the sequential flow of time on the earth plane, your ability to recognize that you can organize your beingness in such a way that there is no time.  So just look at that.

And as you play in that way, as you get really as solid in that experience as you can, just notice that as you are in that space, that the space, the dimensions that you are in, can become a part of that nature as well.  You may begin, as many of you were beginning to notice in the last seminars, that in many ways space is really changing, and we will explore that, or that you can experience space in a different way now, so that your experience of it is changing.  

Okay.  Go as deep as you can.  Use as many skills as you can.  

In this seminar we will look more and more at skills.  We are reaching a place now that we will talk about soon where we have to develop these skills to go more deeply into this nature, and it is important to do that.  That it will be almost impossible to reach those spaces and stay there without doing that.

Okay, get comfortable for a journey, as much depth as you can.  

DaBen:  Welcome.  

Connecting with your guide now from this level, from close to ordinary reality there, the nature of the energies that make up ordinary reality, and the way in which your habit, your presence on the earth plane in a physical body, the way in which you use your mind to organize that input that you receive, so that ordinary reality becomes another state; a very common, a sort of a return to automatic state of consciousness, but it is just another state of consciousness, with its own uniqueness and variability and dynamic nature.  

And so begin your sense of being there, your being this ordinary reality, your being you as a focus of consciousness in ordinary reality, your being on the earth plane in ordinary reality, with all of the lifeforms around you; humans and animals, down to one-celled organisms that are plentiful, that assist you in every possible way in maintaining a physical presence, the consciousness of the cells much different than your concept of ordinary reality, but a being, a consciousness of being a part of your ability to experience being.

And then to begin to expand out at a higher level now.  You have played with aspect selves, other places that you have right now a connection to another physical human presence on the earth plane.  

And expanding that out even more now with your guide’s assistance, and beginning to collect, beginning to hold at least some part of each of those areas that you experience as being, so that you are building a composite of this energy, a composite experience.  

Good.  And now also with your guide’s assistance looking back as past lives, whatever that means to you, however open you can be to that possibility, however detailed your experiences might be, or your thoughts about such experiences might be.

Just recognize as energy that you have played on the earth plane in previous lifetimes, and your sense that this adds to being, the sense of opening to this possibility adds to your being, and the potential, the energy of being in that potential from this perspective, in this moment of now, future lives on the earth plane.  

Again, a part of your being, you might begin to find a way to hold this, a visualization, or a felt sense.  Perhaps just an opening of the back of the head and neck out into, as you open that energy at the back of the head and neck and shoulders, that you recognize a larger flow, and you let it expand at just the right rate so that your experience of the depth and intensity, the solidity of your experience of this energy of being is kept reasonably constant in its intensity.  It is dynamic, of course, but it has a certain intensity, a certain pressure, as it were.  

Good.  So all the lives that you have experience on the earth plane, all the connections, past and future, and now expand out to the potential, to the possibility, to expand your thoughts to the potential, to even imagining, to pretending, just as an opening perhaps, that you have connections, or presences even, to other planes.  

That your expanded consciousness can take on forms and presences in other planes as well, that this time and space is so fluid that this energy, this subtle energy that we will build on as a better definition in later journeys, that this subtle energy connects you to all of the places that you have the skill to place your consciousness, and you are of a much, much larger consciousness.  

Good.  And asking your guide to assist you now in holding this being experience, this being in its variety, and detail, and depth, and breadth, in its expansive nature, as you begin to notice more of the light body, the light body energy, and how it is possible to use that light body to connect out.  

Much as you have used the light body as a beginning point in visiting other beings, in playing with other beings and exploring, use that nature of the light body now to enhance your experience of this being, this expanded being, your experience of being this opening.

And as you use luminous light now at the light body level, let that visualization or felt sense become more solid, become more of a reference point, a marker, an invitation, an invitation to experience as little or as much, or even an expanded as much, and even more, state of this experience.  

Good.  And expanding on that now.  Notice the nature of the energy in this space about you.  Join that energy, match its expansion, its light, its interior light, its depth.  

Good.  Being.  And just note, just make a place to note that as an experience, a beginning of an experience that we will call the first stage of being.  We will build upon this and we will go to other stages, but just note this as a place that you can return to as an opening.  

Good.  You are doing very well at this being, this being space.  

Notice the range of experience in this space, and the many states of your ability to be conscious.  You may notice that these change even within this short timeframe or short sequence of time on the earth plane as you adjust your experience, as you shift those states of ways of experiencing.  

Good.  Now, just letting that go, thanking your guide, and retaining a bit of this space but coming back to the light body, the light body cocoon.  And then translating this space back, translating it back to the Renawre cocoon, the shimmer there, and then to ordinary reality, this being, your ability to experience from ordinary reality.  

Coming back at your own pace and rhythm, and with that, we bid you most pleasant journeys for now. 

Program 04 LB971E – Exercise

Duane:  Good.  Now, as you continue to come back, just spend a few minutes just on your own noticing something distinctive, or several things distinctive, about this space as you get more and more into ordinary reality, as your personality might be able to notice this state, what would that be like.  

Just begin to notice that.  Just take a minute or two to create a more solid visualization or felt sense, a more complete ability to remember this space.  

Good.  Now just continue that to the degree and level that you can as you come back to ordinary reality. 

Stay as much as you can aware of this space.  

Duane:  Well, you have done well with that.  You have done well with these first spaces, this beginning into the being space.  So let us continue that now.  

In our exploring, in our explorations in this way, to gain greater mastery we really will play with skills.

For some time I have been working in taking what DaBen is doing, suggests, and DaBen helps organize the journeys where the skills are there, and our building the skills we sort of bring them in in a very quiet way, sort of sneak them into the experience.  

We are getting to the place where that is getting harder and harder, that you will have to have those skills.  And as I was thinking about it, it sort of occurred to me this time that something very early on that we used to call the journeys, or several students call the journeys, and they called them E-ticket rides.  I guess that’s a Disneyland term.  So an E-ticket ride.  

We are getting to the place where, yes, you can get an E-ticket ride, but there is a limit to an E-ticket ride.  You can get the adrenalin rush and you get a little bit of a thrill, but really, you know, not much is on the line.  

It reminded me of something when I was an adrenaline rush junkie, that climbing was challenging and fun to me because a mistake was probably your last mistake.  And so as we get into this we are not dealing with a last mistake type of thing, fortunately, but we also are to a place now where we cannot just take the ride.  We can, and it will be E-ticket, but you will just know there is so much that you are missing.  

So it is sort of like moving from that roller coaster to hang gliding.  Well, hang gliding is not a good experience unless you have skill.  If you have skill, and a lot of skill, it can be a really exhilarating experience.  At least it looks like it; I have never acquired the skill to do it.  

But that is what we are building now, is we are building that skill to make this E-ticket ride into a hang gliding type of experience, into where you are maneuvering, that you are experiencing the thrill of the height and the gravity and the weightlessness and all of that that comes from flying, of being in these spaces.  So there are certain skills that we need to do that.  

You have a lot of them already, but DaBen may start calling them out, may start assisting you in noticing that, so that it becomes a more conscious exercise for you.  

So as we do that, if DaBen starts to say something like notice that space, and fall into, and open the underneath, that you just recognize that he is giving you some instructions as a group, some instructions as to what skill might work for you.  These are suggestions.  You have your experiences, your way of experiencing.  Just use your skills to do that.  And DaBen, if he makes those suggestions, it is just suggestions as to what might assist you.  Embellish upon them, or ignore them if you are in that great space and building that there, so that as you play, recognize the skill that is there. 

All right.  Another thing that we have worked on from the very beginning, that you as a part of being interested in your spiritual growth at all, is that you begin to open ability to sense in certain ways the energy that you are in and about.  

For some of you it was things that you consciously developed, for others it was an ability, for a beginning term, perhaps a psychic ability, or an expanded intuitive ability, that drew you into exploring more of these energies.  So you already had senses.

From about the building consciousness stage we were using the senses, enhancing the senses we had.  From the building consciousness on we began to build another sense, and maybe now we are building another one as well.  We called that sense imagination as a sense.  So that we were not just imagining, creating, that we were sensing the energy, that we are using our imagination as a sense.  We were not creating it, we were receiving that information, that ability to see a certain quality of energy, or light, or whatever it was that we experienced.  

And we are doing that as well.  As we moved into luminous body we began adding to a sense, and we will play more with that now.  We will play more with using that to sense beingness; what is this beingness.  

With this sense it becomes easier, and as you build your skill, as you expand that sense, it not only becomes easier, it becomes natural to do what we did in the last journey and the exercise afterwards, where your sense of being just is, at any breadth, at the breadth that is there.  It does not require a mental focus, or even a conscious awareness.  It is just a background for you.

But until we have that sense, I encourage you to always be experiencing as much as you can, as big a volume, as big, as wide a range of senses as you can, so that you are playing bigger.  That has been a theme that DaBen has given us for some time.  It becomes even more valuable now as we play here.  

Okay.  This next journey we are going to look at being.  You have played in the last journey with what being meant to you, with DaBen’s sort of guidance as to what you might look at and so on.  We are going to look at being now and expand on that, what as an experience of being.  

Now, we played in the past with levels of consciousness.  In this journey we are going to briefly touch on the consciousness that your cells have that allow them to organize to create this physical form that we have on the earth plane.  We are not going to try to figure out how they do it.  Their consciousness is beyond ours, I have a feeling.  That it is much larger than what we normally think of as our mental process, or as our personality.  

As you play in that way, just recognize that the concepts you have about who you are, what you are made of, how you came about — and I am not talking about history, I am talking about your experience right now in this moment and in no-time — how your experience, ability to experience in that way comes about.  

Just to recognize that the way that we think of ourselves that we have learned from our culture falls away.  So you can bring it back; that’s the good news.  The bad news is it comes back pretty automatically unless you are being observant.  

So we will do a little dance here between being observant and letting it go, and being observant and letting it go, and play with this being, where being takes on not a mental, intellectual process at all, but at the upper reaches of our experience, our ability to sense this energy.

Okay.  Now, this is the first journey that we are playing here.  We have lots more.  So be adventuresome.  Find the edges.  Be inventive.  You will have lots of other chances.  

Okay, get comfortable for a journey.  
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Program 06 LB971E_06J DaBen: Being as a Space, Basic, First Look

DaBen:  Welcome.  

Good.  And as we find each of you now individually, your individual energies, no matter when you are listening to this journey, no matter when you are participating in its energy, finding that, so that we might open a space in such a way that it accounts for and encourages your unique energies, your unique experiences, opening for you as much possibility as possible.

So reaching into that now, into that opening, and opening to receive, to be in that space, to expand, to use all of your senses, all of your skills, to find more aspects and dimensions of your ability to experience, of your experience, as we explore your ability to experience and ability to be being now, being at its most basic stage.

And connecting with your guide and moving to the light body smoothly and easily, the shimmer and harmony in the Renawre cocoon, and ask your guide to assist you by maintaining a certain reference that you will always be able to see, or experience, or have a point of clarity about.  

And your guide’s challenge, which they have mastered already, will be to constantly change that as your experience shifts and changes, much as your guide already does that to stay connected, to maintain a connection to you in a conscious way, so that you are conscious of that connection.  

Good.  And now, noticing a constancy, a very dynamic energy, much as we played with the light body, a very dynamic energy.  But in that dynamic energy there is sort of a constancy, or a progression, an orderly progression perhaps, so that either its intensity, or its felt sense, or its tone, or color, or way in which it brings your awareness to it, is a constancy.

And use your visualization perhaps to assist you, whether it be opening the back of the head and neck, or your unique sense in this way.  

Good.  And now using the luminous light to open, to go into, going underneath perhaps, just for the briefest of moments, so that you might bring that luminous light into and then open, so that you are more easily able to sense this energy, to respond to it, being; a constancy, a dynamic constancy, but ever-changing as your focus changes, as your ability to be aware changes.

And expand, to the degree that you can, to include as broad a depth of experience of energy as you can.  There is no need to identify the level of that energy, or the thoughts you might have about that level, but just as energy, a great breadth of levels.  Being.

You might reach all the way to an experience of that space of oneness, and then to luminous body, all the way to the light body, to vibrational energy bodies, to emotional flow, to mental fluidity, without even noticing the thoughts but just that they are fluid, to the next, to the next.  

To the physical, to all of the rapid dynamics of the physical, the speed at which the cells work, process, the way in which they work with molecular and all the bonds that are rearranged to create your ability to be on the earth plane in a physical form.  Even to the earth plane.  

Now, just letting that go, creating to the degree that you can, a way to remember the essence of this space, this being space, this first stage of being.  

Good.  And now, thanking your guide and coming back to the light body, the light body cocoon, and then smoothly and easily now back to the time and space of the earth plane, at your own pace and rhythm.  

And with that, we bid you most pleasant journeys for now.  

Program 06 LB971E06 – Exercise

Duane:  Okay.  As you begin to come back, as you begin to organize your ordinary reality experience, recognize that it is probably happening mostly beyond your ability to be conscious.  But notice to the degree that you can, of organizing it, your ordinary reality experience.  

And as an exercise this time, think of an area that you are excited about doing, something on your I want to do list.  Not a number ten.  We will probably save number tens until the seminar on Tuesday and Wednesday.  But something you enjoy doing that is on your list.  Maybe it is something new, maybe it is something familiar that you enjoy.  

From this being space, think about this activity, this task, this something you want to do.  Think about it.  What thoughts occur?  How open can you make those thoughts?  

From being, from this space, what is it that is enjoyable?  Is it the activity itself, is it a shift that you create, is it something else?  

See how many open thoughts you can create about this perhaps familiar, perhaps not familiar, but enjoyable activity that you are anticipating, see what you can do.  

Spend a few minutes thinking about that.  Feel free to take notes if you would like, any new thoughts that are there.  

Two main questions: What is it that you enjoy about it, and what reason do you have for doing it, if enjoying it is not enough.

Okay, take a few minutes just on your own to think about this activity.  

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Program 07 LB971E_07 Duane: Talk 

Duane:  Okay.  Just let yourself drift from that space to this journey, noticing how easy or how challenging it was to hold that constant, to continue to be aware of that activity, and if you move to other activities where there are things that you could open, that you could experience opening.

Part of the skill that we will be looking at in this next journey, we are bringing your awareness back to a style of energy, but not in a rigid way, not in a thought process way, not in I cannot think about anything else way, but in a holding that energy, the constancy of being, letting yourself expand out into that, more and more layers, but still experiencing being.  Not drifting to something else, but being as a constancy, as a backdrop.  Being not exclusively about being, but experiencing being as a part of what you are exploring, so that it is there.

Okay, get comfortable for a journey. 

DaBen:  Welcome.  

Good.  Connecting with your guide.  And as you recall your holding an activity that you enjoy that you are going to be doing, recall the times in which you wandered off of that space, not just the thinking about, but wandered off that space.  

And find the light body now, and notice that as you do there is a certain focus, a certain way in which you hold your awareness for the period of time it takes you to move from that point of light of the Fullonia to the light body, or just directly to the light body; the focus it takes to know that space, to recall that space, to become that space, to be the energy of that space, to be in and of that energy.  

So that as you connect with your guide you notice as well what is required to make that connection, a certain type of awareness of focus, perhaps briefly held, and then it shifts to holding that focus, or once held you can let it go and resume it in an instant.  What is the nature of that connection, of the focus and awareness required for you to be in that connection?  

Much as you might look back now at your physical presence in time and space, what awareness does it take to maintain that?  Does it require any conscious awareness?  Could you expand to be aware of that place where you are aware of being in a physical way?  

And use that noticing what is required there to learn the skill of having that being, and shifting your awareness and focus from one area to another, and yet having that entire range within your ability, within your being, even though your awareness may not in that instant be on the details, or on a knowingness, but a part of your being nonetheless.  

Just as your physical is a part of your being and sometimes you are not even aware.  In fact many activities that you seek at a personality level are to reduce an awareness of your physical being to the pure joy of exercising your space, and nervous system, and presence without a self-consciousness, just a being, whether it is fully engaged in an activity, or an emotion, or a thought, or a string of thoughts, or an area of creativity, or an awareness of the light body and its depth and detail, and all the skills you have here with the frequencies and patterns.  

Good.  And now having this range of experience now, to find the skills that you have to hold that in a way that you can smoothly look deeper into that, without struggle, without effort, without drawing away from a natural evolution of the energy, but beginning to focus, beginning to notice into that energy, to find details in the dynamic, to use the constancy and your skill to go into that dynamic, to let that experience of an area unfold.

What is required to focus in this way, to magnify, to tease out more and more of the energy and the details?  

Good.  And now just letting that go, thanking your guide.  We will play more with focusing in this way.

Coming back at your own pace and rhythm to the time and space of the earth plane.

And with that, we bid you most pleasant journeys for now.  

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Program 09 LB971E_09T Sanaya: Talk

How many of you are here for the first time?  Would you stand up?  

We are happy to see you here.  We have a friendly group of people who come to the seminar.  If you want to meet other people for lunch, we will meet right over here.  

I think most of you know that we have many people here who have been coming for years and years who we call the seed group.  Actually many of them started as far back as 1989 when we started the light body teachings, and have come to almost every seminar we have had, holding the space and the energy.  

Can I have all of you who are in the seed group just stand up for a minute?  We want to thank you.  

So those of you who come after that have been building on the energy that they have been holding, so you get to come along for more of the ride.  As you are gaining more advanced energy, that we have been building a base, and all of you are holding it for many thousands of people out there who are studying the light body.

And then out of that we also have what we have called the discovery group, which is a group of people who have come to almost every seminar for probably 10 or 15 fifteen years.  Would you stand up, those of you who are in the discovery group?  

This includes the seed group.  

I was thinking about it, I was thinking those of you who are new to the light body, you get to come along for the ride, and they will carry you, the group energy, to many new places, and then you can recreate that on your own.  So the energy of all of you who have been doing the light body for years is opening up a space, is holding a space, for many people who are just now opening to the light body.  So all the years that you have all spent, a lot of people coming into it can just almost leapfrog into a higher level right from the beginning.  

We want to thank all of you who have been setting that space and holding that space, and also the joy of each of you who come who have recently graduated, who are learning the light body.  You bring a whole new breadth of frequencies to the group; you bring that excitement and that opening.  So we are happy to have so many new people.  We have 10, 15, 20 people a week who start the light body with us.  So we have a large and growing group of people, and we welcome all of you, and knowing that we are here holding a space, and they are coming into the light body and opening to it.  

It is a very different thing to come into the light body now than it was 20 years ago.  You might realize the gridwork we have built, the light energy we have built, which allows us to go higher, and allows many high beings to come and reach us.  So I look at it as sort of like the highway that has been built between all of us here and the higher realms.  

That is also a big part of Orin’s work.  As many of you who have studied with Orin, his work right now is really in building the central pillar, which he calls the antahkarana, the channel upward.  

And in Orin’s work — and I will just briefly mention it — I feel like Orin is building for me the elevator straight up.  And how to bring it down through Divine Will is how to reach the purest note of beingness and to ring that note all the way down to the personality.  And seven Divine Wills and the energy of the pure frequency of the Wills is another way to bring that energy down and to be clear with that energy, so you are not picking up the mass consciousness, astral energies, but you are ringing your own note of beingness straight down through that channel.  

And with the light body we get to get out, like an elevator, you get to get out at a lot of levels and explore them.  And with Orin’s going straight up and then coming down, he is focused on certain aspects of that upward, and DaBen is also focused on certain aspects of the upward.  So there is a commonality, just a different languaging and a different approach.  

The other thing Orin has played with a lot, for most of you, is the divine Self.  And the book we are working on, which is taking shape, is all about building the central pillar.  If you have taken the Orin Transcending your Ego series or any of those, it is all about creating that rainbow bridge, as it is called, (and there are many names for it throughout many religions.)  But it is the building of the channel first to the soul, and then to the divine Self.  

I look at Divine Will as providing another piece of that channel, and it is very, very pure. I have been playing a lot with that in some of Orin’s next work coming through, because when you build the channel, then you end up with another space above that that Orin is working on now, and our presence there.  He calls it the jeweled vehicle for now.  It is beginning to interface with DaBen’s work a lot in that it is about interdimensional traveling.  Now that you have built the channel, what do you do with it, where do you go, how do you acquire consciousness?

And what I find so amazing is that the skills I learned through DaBen that he is teaching, and has been teaching for these last 20 years, are all really important to be in those higher spaces, whether you are building the channel, whether you are exploring with beings, you are learning skills.  You are learning how to deal with the fast-moving energies in the higher dimensions; what to do when you do not see anything and you are in a whiteout, or you cannot open, or you are just there and you do not know where to go next.

So all of what DaBen is teaching works in any practice you have; be it yoga, music, art, meditations, through DaBen or another teacher, through another practice.  These are the skills of being in the higher spaces, and being your beingness.  

DaBen has been transmitting some of the energies that are coming in this cycle and they are just exquisite.  You keep thinking you have had everything, that you have done it all, what more could there be?  And then we open to more new spaces and I am just in awe of how profound, and infinite, and beautiful these higher spaces are.

Part of Orin’s work is to get up there, but part of Orin’s work, probably more than DaBen’s right now, is to bring it back down with precision, so that the forms you create, the relationships, with the Divine Will, with the divine Self, are more aligned with your beingness.  

It is just amazing what you as a group are offering, are doing, are opening up for humanity.

One thing Duane told me that I really appreciated about DaBen’s transmissions – and DaBen is able to look at your energy, not your personality, not your thoughts.  He does not know what is going on with you in your life, for those of you who worry, but he watches your energy.  

And he says what I do, I can see everybody’s energy here throughout each journey, live or remote, even after the seminar when you go home and you are doing the journey.  He says, “I watch, and what I try to do is — and he has probably told you this — I try to make the noise of the earth plane go away, so that you are not having to fight the energy out there, the mass consciousness, the thoughtforms.  So that if there is a shift right there that is there for you to make, you can better see it, you can better take that step because I am opening it up.” He said during each meditation, “I can see each of you, and I can see when you are sometimes right ready to take a shift but you are not seeing it, or something is standing in your way.  And he says at that moment with DaBen I can just do a little — and open it up.  

That is part of why I really enjoy the transmissions, is that as DaBen sets that space, and then all of you set that space, we have really got an energy here that is profound.  I come away from every group meeting with a lot of shifts.

Geographical Welcome: 

Anyway, what we do, the purpose of having the geographical, calling out where people are taking this course from, started off way before the internet days where everybody had to come in person because that was the only way you could get the information was to physical be at a seminar.  People wanted to meet other people from their area.  So what we did was say, “Would everybody from this area stand up, or that area,” and that helped people see who was possibly from their area.

We have continued doing this, which is less significant in this day and age when you have got the internet and forums and our Facebooks groups and all of that.  But we thought it would be fun to have people still continue this tradition, and we can hear where people are from who are participating in this seminar. We are basing this on people’s home address; it does not necessarily reflect where they are right now.  There may be people in other countries listening to the journeys that we do not know where they are.

So I wanted to start by welcoming — and a lot of these people are remote, so I do not know how many will stand up.  

We have Australia and New Zealand.  Do we have anyone here in person?  Welcome! We have five or six people that are not here that are from your area.

Europe, we have people here from France, Germany, Netherlands, Belgium, Great Britain, Ireland, Sweden, Denmark, Italy, Croatia, and Spain.  Can I have all of you stand up?  

And then Canada.  How many are here from Canada?  We have quite a few who are taking this long distance from Canada.  

And we have a large group, as you know, in Malaysia with Poy-Hwa Lim, who takes the seminar, and she gets a ballroom like this and her students gather and she translates for them.  We want to welcome her.  

And then from Taiwan and mainland China we have Lucia Luo.  She comes every several seminars in person.  She has a group, and we want to welcome her group who are right now in Taiwan with her translating the seminar material for them.  

And then we have people in India, Japan, Singapore, and Bahrain. 

Then we have Panama, Brazil, Puerto Rico, Africa, and Liberia.  

And in the U.S., I’ll just start with the upper northeast: Massachusetts, Maryland, Vermont, New York, and Pennsylvania.  

And then moving south we have Virginia, North Carolina, Arkansas, and Florida.  

If any of you want to meet each other after this, if you saw somebody new from your area, you can also come over here.

Moving to the Midwest, Minnesota, Illinois, Iowa, and Ohio. 

Going south again, Texas, Arizona, and New Mexico.  

Utah, Nevada, Colorado, and Wyoming.  

Oregon, Washington, and Hawaii.  

Northern California. 

Southern California. 

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Program 10 LB971E_10J Orin: Radiating Your True Beingness

Sanaya:  Let us just take a moment to have a moment of peace and quiet, and just connect with each other, but then send that light out to everyone you know, just be your beingness right now. And ring that note throughout all your connections.  

Orin:  And take a moment to connect with all the light body students who are very advanced, who are part of the gridwork, who you can find energetically, that beautiful light energy right now, including your own.  

The light body gridwork is very beautiful, very solid.

And then notice and welcome all the new ones coming, all the new people opening to these spaces and filling in, adding light where it is needed, expanding it, the light of consciousness, the light of the gridwork, containing all the consciousness of the higher spaces we have gathered and opened to ourselves.  

Sense everyone who is in resonance with you, with your light, being drawn to this higher consciousness in whatever form it comes to them.  

Just open right now to your next steps, to the light that is there for you, the consciousness, the beauty, the love, the connections.  Ask that if there is anything that needs to be cleared for you to open to all that you can be, ask for that to be cleared, and know that your higher self and soul and divine Self are working with you and for you.  

So that whatever lies ahead for you, you are open to, to be the greatest light you are capable of being.  Picture yourself right now as a great light, even greater than right now.  All the higher beings in touch with you that you can access, a clear channel upward, and a clear radiance outward, so that all the light you take in flows out, lifting everyone around you.  A very stable, steady light, your true beingness.  

You are leaving and creating such a gift for humanity and the children being born into this great light of more consciousness, more love, greater awareness of their beingness, and your light has been an important part of this work.  For who you are, your beingness, is part of the gridwork, part of the channel upward, and that frequency will reach out to everyone one step behind, or more, who has a similar path and a similar frequency and similar challenges.  

You are becoming the light.

All right.  Thank you for being.  And I will join you at another time.  With love, from Orin. 

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Program 11 LB971E_11T Duane: Talk 

Duane:  Okay.  As we explore, as we play in this way, we have gone through a number of skill levels.  

One of the things that becomes very challenging for me in terms of translating DaBen is to try to describe to you what the next seminar will be about, so that your personality will be excited and will come and enroll and be willing to shift and so on.

And Sanaya always points out, well, you said that two seminars ago, or you said the same thing four seminars ago.  And, yes, I ran out of words.  There are no additional words.

So one of the things that we will be challenged with, for some time that we have been getting into these levels, one of the things we will be challenged with is to find words that your personality can make sense of and be excited about that does not sound like, well, I have done that before.

One of the concepts on the earth plane is that there is only one level, only the right answer, one right answer, all of this, the sort of thoughtform that we have in our culture that there is only the one solution, or this.

I think that is a large part of the culture’s problem is that we are seeking “the one,” the final thing, the one true love, the one whatever.  When you begin to find out that, gee, there are lots of really good solutions, lots of really good answers.  Pick one of those, and then the next one will come, and the next one will come, or the next many will come.  So that becomes part of the challenge in describing levels to you and what the journeys are, what the topic will be about.

As we get into this level, as we get into being and playing with the beingness space, as we look here, we are bringing lots of levels that we have done before into play, and we are adding another level, another component, a more complete aspect.   So that as we look at this there are going to be similarities in what we have done before.

A part of growth, a part of spiritual growth, always has some more elements, more consciousness.  Remember one of the things that DaBen described, he said, well, if you want it really simple, then earth plane life is about consciousness and manifesting.  There is nothing more that you need to know other than that.  But there are all sorts of details, all sorts of things that we can bring to bear; skills, and senses, and so on, spaces and states.  

We go back, one of the mistakes that I made a long time ago in the light body path, in the journeys, is we spent a long time on oneness.  I was thinking that oneness was the be-all, end-all.  That is what I had experienced at that point.  It sounded great, felt great, it was wonderful, at all sorts of levels.

And then as I began to still hang onto that, DaBen started showing me, well, that is just one state.  There are all these other states and spaces and so on that we are going to get to.  So as we explore here we are going to find things beyond this as well.  

As part of the preparation for this seminar I started looking back at what we had done in the light body.  In the next couple of days I may review some more of that.  And I had been looking at some writings of other teachers, where they are at, and their approach, is there language I can steal from them that describes what we are doing.  

And unfortunately what I am finding is that a lot of them repeated the mistake I made with oneness.  They reached a nice level, and at least what they are teaching, they have stayed there for years.  And so it is like, well, wait a minute, I know there is more than that because we have been there.  You and DaBen have opened those spaces.

And I cannot emphasize enough that it is we that have opened those spaces.  DaBen has shown us how, but the energy, and bringing the energy in, is your doing.  If you were not willing to shift, if you did not try to acquire those skills, we would not have opened these spaces.

And when we look back we say, ah, okay, I remember the first class we taught on light body.  We taught it three times because the interest was there to do that, and I did not have the skill, we did not have the skill, to hold that many.  But there were places that when we reached the Renawre cocoon, or we reached a level of flow in the emotional flow, truly it was an aha moment.  It was, wow, this is spectacular.

Well now it is just one little bringing harmony in on our way to higher and higher spaces.  So it is sometimes useful to look back and do that.

One of the things in my reading that I started looking at is that a number of teachers, you start listing, okay, they have this, this is their belief system.  And I thought well, gee, that is interesting.  What is the belief system required for the light body?  And I think it could be reduced to one thing:  that you regard experience as having meaning.  It stops there.  You do not need any more beliefs.  

You can believe in beings or not, they can be energies or not.  You can believe in the light body centers or not.  But if you have experienced it and that experience has meaning, that is all you need, and that is the way DaBen has approached it.

Some of the teachers I was reading, it is like well, no, if I have not experienced it, then what they are telling me makes no sense.  And no matter how much I read I could not get directly that experience.  I could from the light body, and I could say, oh, that is what they are talking about.  But it is where you are deriving your own experience, you are creating the space for your own experience.

One of the things that we will work on this time a little more heavily than normal in the last few classes is that not only are you getting to those spaces with DaBen and everybody helping and holding the space — and we will talk more about the beings holding the space, that we have attracted a large number of beings that we are using now to our benefit in opening space and so on.  

But what I want to emphasize more is that you are able to get to these spaces on your own.  Now that you have acquired the skill, that you can get there yourself, that it does not require you listening to a journey.  You can if you want, it may deepen your experience in terms of your skill, but that you can get there on your own.  You can create for yourself these experiences.  

And that has been one of DaBen’s rules from the very beginning, is that the goal was not to create the space for you, but to show you how to get there, so that we have that opportunity.  

Okay.  This next journey we are going to look at being, and we are going to make a little, what, a little transition.  But it took me a while to learn it.  You, I am sure, will learn it very quickly.  But there is a little bit of a trick to it.  Just like the trick we do when we go to the point of light of the Fullonia and then expand out, a little bit of that trick.

The trick here is to get from that being space and recognize potential, to then flip that around so that you are experiencing the being space and its potential.  And it is just a very subtle opening, but you will notice it as it changes the way in which you experience, in the way you hold that experience.

So as you look at that, just notice.  DaBen will give you a number of opportunities to play.  If you do not get it this journey, you will get it in a journey very soon thereafter, because once the space is there it is really memorable in terms of what you can recreate.

Okay.  I think that is all we need for this journey.  Being space, breadth, play as large as you can, as many levels.  Do not be restricted by time.  And we will look at space in a bit, but do not be restricted by space either in terms of its dimension.

Okay, get comfortable for a journey. 

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Program 12 LB971E_12J DaBen: Being, Flipping Energy to Include Potential

DaBen:  Welcome.  

Good.  And connecting with your guide now.

Good.  And now moving to the light body, the light body cocoon, and finding your sense of being, whatever that means to you, wherever you choose to start in the meaning.  

That you are able to experience, that you are experiencing, that you are being, that you have some level of ability to have a presence, to be.  Whether it be on the earth plane or beyond, whether it be because you have this lifetime, that you are listening to these words in this time and space, or whenever you choose to play with these energies, whether even you play with these energies on your own and explore on your own, and discover other destinations, other spaces even.

Good.  And now expand that sense of destination out at this level, and using the luminous light to open the energies, and expanding that energy.  So that expanding the size of the light body, the light body cocoon, to hold more and more of this light, but keeping the cocoon boundary for now so that you have the energy coming back to you, multiplying, enhancing your ability to experience. 

Good.  And now, from this basic energy now, notice the experience.  Whatever visualization you have used, let that help reinforce your ability to be in this space, to translate it to as many levels as you would like, all the way from the physical, to the cells, to matter, to all of that consciousness, to the highest, finest consciousness.  Just a touch of Immense Space, luminous body.

Being, being this experience, this experience of being, this space of being, the various states of consciousness that you have to be able to play at this level, at this breadth.  

Good.  Now, just shifting, just follow this shift, finding the potential here.  Let it flip around, as it were.  

Now, being, being, potential.  So that all of that energy that you were experiencing has a depth, is an expanded space, is potential as well.  It is the energy that is manifest as a part of your experience and it is the energy right on the edge of manifesting, as the energy that could manifest, an energy that is infinite in its potential.  

And a felt sense or even a visual might be that you are in and yet somehow above, immersed in this beautiful light, this vibrant energy.  The consciousness that you are immersed in is vibrant and beautiful and bright, and some of which you can experience directly, and some of it is just its potential, just that light opening.

And you can use your experience of luminous body to see more of it, and it comes and goes in its density, or its brightness, or its drawing you in.  

As you place your attention and awareness you highlight certain areas over others, and you realize that your attention is moving very rapidly through this energy.  

Good.  And at least to start, as you play in this way, as you make this transition, this shift, this flipping this energy around, until you become more proficient, whenever that is, and you have made a great start, there will be beings that will be more than willing to assist you; assisting you by opening some space, by, as it were, taking pressure of your ordinary reality, or your consciousness that is based right now in ordinary reality, of taking some of the pressure of that off so that you might experience it more completely.

You may choose to notice those beings, there is probably three or four for each of you, no matter where or when you are playing in this way.  And after you become proficient then these beings will rejoice and join in to the space that you doing that, that shift, creates.  

Good.  And now, letting go even more of your experience of ordinary reality, of the ways in which you have learned to experience these energies based in ordinary reality.  That is where you began your awakening, as it were, and now you can let that go, for you have strong bases many other places; the light body, the luminous body, even an awareness of the Immense Space, ability to span these levels, just even an awareness of these levels, all could be a strong base.

So letting go even more that sequential time, of bases in coming back to matter, experience based in that, and be experience based wherever you choose.  The light body is where you have developed great skill.

Being now.  

Good.  Enjoying that potential now, the manifest potential, your experience, your experience based mainly, as much as possible, at a level above your ordinary reality way of experiencing, your ordinary reality way of interpreting.  

And when thoughts occur, let them be as open as possible, so that there can be others filled in, detail filled in.  

Follow these shifts now, using the opportunity of these beings, following these shifts, both right at the edge of manifest and potential, finding that energy, beginning to focus there, as many areas as you can, right at that boundary.  

Notice that it is a fluid boundary.  Potential becomes manifest, manifest returns to potential.  That it is only quite a ways into manifest before what you recognize as manifest really is.  It is this dance back and forth; dance of your consciousness, or consciousness in general, where as you look at it some of that changes by you observing, some is changing by other observations at many levels of consciousness.  

Any degree of order has a consciousness that can shift the potential to manifest, depending on the level and area.  You are beginning to watch this now, this potential, this experience, this opening.  

And as you watch that, more importantly than watching, than figuring what is there, is the space that you are in to be able to observe, to play, to experience.  What space is that?  How many states of consciousness do you go through to move into that energy, to observe as many qualities of the space as possible.  Being, in its broadest terms.  

Now, just letting that go, thanking your guide, thanking these beings, just being now in this larger sense.  Not just being your experience, but being, experiencing that being, the potential that is there, the energy that is there.

Good.  And now just letting that go, coming back smoothly and easily with this rich experience that you have had, coming back smoothly and easily to the time and space of the earth plane, at your own pace and rhythm.

And with that, we bid you most pleasant journeys for now. 

Program 12 LB971E12 – Exercise

Duane:  We would like you to play with this space on your own for just a moment, a couple minutes.  

Pick an area that you have been thinking of doing, something that you have wanted to do, a project or activity or whatever it might be.  

Begin to use this being space to experience that as an activity, or as energy, or a creativity, or a thoughtform, or whatever it might be, maybe a connection or a relationship, or whatever.  

See if you can use this space, this being, with this potential, to open up, to begin to notice that there is so much more there that you could experience about this area you have chosen.  

And we played with an area this morning.  Choose that same area, or a different, just notice more depth. 

We are beginning to get that skill to move into some of that energy and notice specifics of those energies, at least more detailed energy for right now.  

So take a few minutes to do that, just to play, to experience there.  

Okay.  Take another 30 seconds or so to capture all the energy there, to bring it to insights, if that is the form it might take; to bring it to inspiration, if that is the form it might take; to bring it to I am going to do this, or gee, this would be much better than that; whatever form it might take.  

Good.  Now just letting that go, making any notes that you might want, maybe just stretching in your chair or standing just to stretch.  

We are going to take this energy and go even deeper now to yet another level.  

Program 13 LB971E_13T Duane: Talk 

Duane:  In this next journey we are going to take this last experience in this last journey and just broaden it out just a little bit.  It will be a significant shift in energy, but just so close in terms of skill and experience.  We are going to broaden that energy out a little bit.

To the degree that you can in this next journey, as you broaden it out, see if you cannot let the individual that you began this journey on the earth plane, just to let that experience of that individual go to the degree that is possible.  So that you are out in, for lack of a better term, DaBen has used universe.  So that you are out into being, but not as you as a focus of consciousness, but being as the universe.

Now you are still experiencing, and so you have those skills and energies and perspectives that you can bring to it, but letting that go even more you will find that the, quote, “universe” is drawing you out, opening the space for you.

Just enjoy that.  We may look at some aspects of things while we are there.  

In fact let me ask you a question.  Raise your hand if in this last exercise that you looked at something that you had been wanting to do, how many of you found something that you could open to, that the energy opened for you?  How many of you found that?

Okay, a lot of you.  Okay, good.  

So we may play around with something like that in this next journey as well from this universe being space.

Okay, get comfortable for a journey. 

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Program 14 LB971E_14J DaBen: Being, Universe Level, Playing at Potential and Manifest Border

DaBen:  Welcome.  

Now, connecting with your guide, noticing that being space is already opening, already preparing that energy for you, potential is being recognized as you are moving into this space.  You being in this space, as you are observing and thinking about, or even as strong as intending to move into this space, begins to open this potential, this energy, so that you are a part of this larger energy.

And moving out fully to the light body now, so that you have the skills and  knowledge of the energy as it works at this level, so that you might more fully observe and participate, and indeed to be a part of this beingness, this universe of being, both as part and immersed in the consciousness.  For you cannot be an observer per se from the outside, but from the inside you are an active participant, and active observer, influencing the potential all about you.  

So that you are a part of this universe, a part of this being, and your every observation and whim, as it were, has the potential to manifest, or the potential to dissolve and return to that potential.  

So picking that area now, or another, something that you would like to do, something that you have been wanting to do.  

And finding its energy now, perhaps just as energy or as a thoughtform.  If it began as a thoughtform, gee, that would be fun, notice if it has supporting energy.  Is there something underlying that thought that you can discover?  

If there is, then see if you can draw it out into more focus, into being able to place it as energy, place it as the potential forms that might come from it.  

Being in this space, playing back and forth, balancing.  

Now, going deeper into that, finding energy of being, the details here.  Just playing at this universe level of potential and being.  

Not to create, not to manifest, but to play, to build skill, to understand at this level what that might mean.  To find more detail, to experience into this potential and manifest and that boundary, that ever-shifting boundary, as it becomes potential, as that potential becomes manifest, and then the way you shift your awareness or your consciousness in that moment it might become potential again, or reach another level of form, of a manifest closer in thought.  That your playing in this way creates an opening, an opportunity in this being.  

Good.  And just letting that go now, being your experience.  

And bring some of your experience at this level back now, as you come back to the time and space of the earth plane at your own pace and rhythm.

We bid you most pleasant journeys for now.  

Duane:  At the break we discussed a topic that brings up a point that I want to probably say again and again in various ways, and I have talked about it already in one or two ways.  We have looked at it in the past in a variety of ways.  

As we gain consciousness, what our minds, what our personalities, what our intellect wants, is going to be harder and harder to achieve.  What we think of as understanding, the intellect wants to have it one way, firm boundaries, logic.

We are getting into a place where logic as our culture right now defines it, where there is no logic.  Logic is a construct that we as humans participate in to facilitate our communicating in language.

Remember DaBen said repeatedly that we use language, we use intellect, personality as he calls it, we use personality simply to communicate at this level on the earth plane.  And to think that we are going to carry that higher, we are going to struggle and struggle, and it is not going to work.  But if you can let that part of your intellect, your mind, go, then we will rise above those seemingly intellectual paradoxes.  

And not so seemingly, because we have all come to think of the world in a particular way.  Well, what if it is not that way?  Well, we can shift, we can do a paradigm shift, we can surmount that paradox, but then we will want to fill in another way so it makes sense, so we will come up with another concept.  Nothing wrong with that, except, well, you try to go beyond it, it is then limiting, it limits your ability to be in those spaces, to move into those spaces.

So we are looking at now with this being skill, this being space, the various states that we are in to get there, the skill we use to open it, we are looking at playing at a lot of that boundary now.  

Where we are playing, we have already — DaBen introduced some time ago, he started long before we did the slice of time, but many of you really got it when DaBen showed us that you can get this slice and freeze time right there.  And then that became, slowly, an experience of no time, and all time, and simultaneous time; all distinct, but variations of no time. 

And so as you look at that, then things begin to make sense until you have to bring it back to language and logic to share, and then it becomes difficult.

One of the other skills that DaBen has shown us that many of us get some of the time, and think we still need language at lot of the time, is that you can get the information that is really essential for you to have to be in that consciousness prior to language, very much prior to language, very much prior to thoughts.  So it is just energy, you are getting it as energy.

Now, for DaBen to say personality for communication, you could take that as an extension of not just language but body language, or the way you interact; that a lot of our communication with each other occurs in forms other than language.

So as we look here at these energies, a lot of what you are going to be able to notice about consciousness up there will be at that energy level, at various boundaries like the potential-manifest boundary.  

DaBen was trying to get you to expand into that, that it is a very fluid boundary; that certain energies go back and forth across that boundary all the time, that that boundary is not distinct, that it is your observing in part, or some consciousness observing, that determines which side it is on, and how far into the manifest it becomes.

So we will play a lot with that tomorrow, perhaps in the last journey today, so that we start looking at that.  

Okay.  Let us take this being space just a little bit further.  We have begun focusing, using it to focus.  So let us take it another step further.  Let us look at what it would be if we could say, ah, okay, we can, in whatever we focus on, see everything, and if we apply our skill just right we can get details.

An analogy that was very popular 10-20 years ago is that consciousness is like a hologram, where all the information is in any one little piece.  But it is as though the details in a very small piece, the details of the whole are very fuzzy, they are degraded in some way.  It is all there, but you need just the right formula to magnify, to make it something other than fuzzy.  

We are going to be looking at that in this next journey to see what skills it might take to do something equivalent to that, to recognize that being has this all, but you only want this one little piece, the next piece.

So again, here is a limit that in preparing this seminar in particular I have begun to really appreciate, in that we can pull the pieces out, and we can be really clear on some of the pieces, but when we put them together it is like, okay, somebody just handed us this jigsaw puzzle, you have got to put the pieces together now to make a form on the earth plane.  It is there, but you have to put the pieces together.  

In preparing this seminar, some of the space that you have just mastered easily, that sort of flip into potential, took me a long time to realize that that is what DaBen was telling me; you just flip it, come into that space.  And it took a long time.  I learned a lot in doing it, but it took a long time.

So as we play, as you look at your life, as you look at manifesting, at your consciousness and manifesting — and remember DaBen, and I think I have said it even this seminar, DaBen said if you want it really simple, earth plane life is about consciousness and manifesting.  That is all it is.  Very simple.

But as you play now, as you want to bring form to things, or bring consciousness to things, you are like pulling this puzzle out.  And some of the puzzle has to take place, the form, in sequence.  So as you put the puzzle together, other puzzle pieces can appear, and only can appear, after some of the puzzle is already assembled.  You may have been looking at them or seeing the details, but you did not even realize it was part of this puzzle.

So let us play now just in a lighthearted way looking at that potential.  

Okay, get comfortable for a journey.  

DaBen:  Welcome.  

And even before you move out of ordinary reality any more than you have, notice the being space.  It is everywhere that you are able to experience, at every level.  

So let us once again return to that level that you have great skill, that has been your doorway, as it were, into these spaces.  

To finding the light body, the light body cocoon, as many levels or layers out of the cocoon that you can hold without effort.  It is just there.  It is your energy perspective.  It is not stretching, but you can use it to view energies well outside the light body, that you can use it to be a base to view the depth of this being and potential.  

Good.  And now, connecting with your guide, and asking your guide to give you hints, as it were, as to assembling your consciousness in this area, small piece by small piece, aha moment to aha moment, completing more and more.  

And recognizing that consciousness is never complete, never ending.  It is always opening.  You can experience being complete in certain areas, but being is a process.  And we are exploring here the being space more as a space, not a process, but it too is a process.  And it is consciousness; it is the consciousness that you can experience from the place that you are at on the earth plane, from your ability to get beyond the earth plane, with your skills, with your experiences, with your ability to sense energies.  

Good.  And now, opening into this being space, noticing the potential there.  So using that image, that visualization, that felt sense, of flipping this being energy that you have explored and built on into its potential now, so that it is both; it is manifest and potential, bright energy that you are immersed in.  

And somehow you are able to observe it, but you are immersed in it as well.  You are of this consciousness.  

And from just the right perspectives in just the right area, you can observe this potential, this potential boundary, potential and manifest.  And that by observing now, by some consciousness, and we are in consciousness, by some consciousness observing comes about, the potential becomes manifest.  But it can dissolve again very quickly as well.  

Good.  And now, just to give you a focus, something to play at building your skill, choose another area on the earth plane.  Or if you have other areas of a more metaphysical nature, a more overarching question that you would like to explore that you can state in a very succinct way, look at that.  

So either an earth plane something you would enjoy, something you want to bring about, not a big challenge, not a number ten, but something that you would enjoy bringing about, increase your consciousness, create a shift that you could then enjoy the energy from, or a big philosophical, metaphysical question that you can begin to pull out the details.  

So look at this potential, this being space, the potential, the manifest, and see if you can notice more details wherever this project is, this area you have chosen, whether it is well on its way to being manifest in certain forms.  If there is missing pieces, you feel, is that true?  Begin to tease out from this energy those details.  

And the potential, even though we have been talking about it as though it were a boundary, it is really at every point.  At every energy possible interface there is the manifest and the potential coming and going, forming and dissolving.  

And as you play in this way, with your guide’s assistance in finding the pieces, recognize that you are playing in this dynamic being space with this potential.  

Good.  And now, as you notice these details, bring a part, a significant part of your focus, your quest now, to noticing how it is that you are able to focus, to create an experience in this way.  

And coming back to the light body, the light body cocoon.

Good.  And now just letting that go, thanking your guide, coming back smoothly and easily to the time and space of the earth plane, noticing being at this level, at your own pace and rhythm now coming back.  

And with that, we bid you most pleasant journeys for now.  

Program 16 LB971E16 Exercise

Duane:  Okay.  As an exercise this time, on your own, you have played a lot with the energies, we did not look at how you might experience those forms from ordinary reality, or perhaps you did not.  

So spend a little time now just looking at that; at what forms that might be, what insights you have about that, how do these pieces fit together, what excited you about it, where were you being drawn intuitively in these areas.  

Just open and explore.  

So take three to four minutes to do that, to just review what you saw, but now from a more intuitive, personality level, what forms might they take, how do the pieces fit together, what pieces do you need more information about, all of those things, and more.  

Four minutes each.  

Program 17 LB971E_17T Duane: Talk

Duane:  Okay.  We are going to look in the next journey, the last journey for the day, we are going to look at expanding this being space even more.

We are going to start with just some visualizations, some images, some picture you might have of the way reality is, or the universe is, and hopefully we can expand beyond that as well.

So that we are recognizing that what you are looking at in this being space can include any energy that your consciousness can at least get a glimpse of; potential or manifest, in a form, in a solid form, or still manifesting, still bringing potential about.

And a way that you have perhaps done this in the past early on in your spiritual growth perhaps is to look out at the size and scale of things, to play with looking at the stars, or pretending you are out somewhere in the stars, in the spaces and distances, or looking at the structure of matter, atoms, and electrons, and nucleus and so on, and all the space that is there in relative sizes.  

So just begin to notice this aspect, so that you can recognize that as you play in this way, that the use — and we unfortunately in our language have used the word “space” in a variety of ways.  One we use it as the space, the interior and subtle sense of energy, opening that space, which is the way DaBen normally uses it.  But we also use it in looking at the dimension of space, three dimensions, four dimensions, more, depending on which way you want to play with physics and so on.  

So begin to notice as you play in this way your experience of space.  How linked is your ability to be conscious in those areas, is your experience of space to your consciousness?

Obviously from an observational angle it is very linked, but is it also linked in the way the space comes about?  We will just explore that a bit, just to ask an interesting question at the end of the day, give you an opportunity to be in the being space.

Okay, get comfortable for a journey.  

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Program 18 LB971E_18J  DaBen: Being the Universe, Expand, Expand Beyond

DaBen:  Welcome.  

Connecting with your guide now, and moving out into the light body, the light body cocoon.  

Good.  And now, with whatever knowledge you have of matter and atoms and electrons and nucleus and the space there, or the stars and galaxies and the space between them, the distance between them, and from this being space now notice these dimensional spaces, these distant spaces.

And begin to recognize that as you play with being in this way, that you have the opportunity to be connected in subtle energies at the smallest scale.  And we have chosen matter and atoms, although there is certainly smaller, and at the larger scale, and we have chosen stars, there is certainly larger.  

To just notice how it is that in this being space, that you with the subtle energies and your ability to play with these subtle energies can gain consciousness, experiential consciousness.  

That you can build upon a picture that perhaps science has given you in these two areas — and we will probably at a later time expand to other areas as well — but for right now for building this skill, begin to notice what you experientially know, can discover about this distance, this space; this space in this regard.  

This distance implies empty.  Is it empty?  Is it an area of consciousness?  Do you, with approaching this in this way, have the skill to find what might be in this space between these stars, between these electrons and protons, the nucleus?  

Perhaps notice what happens with your ability to be conscious as you explore these spaces.  Does playing in this way bring you to a place that your ability to experience, to find the consciousness, is less, or is it just that it is different?  

This space of being now, and this space as a distance or dimension, your consciousness, a consciousness that you are of and in.  How might you weave these experiences together to form a new concept, or picture, or sense of energy?  And in that sense of energy what expressions do you have of your consciousness and being?  

And you may find as you explore that it is not hard at all to encompass in your consciousness the space of the very small or of the very large.  

Just follow these shifts now, this shift, a sort of lifting and opening, sort of moving above and beyond, this experience, to potential and manifest and more.  A new way to hold this experience, this being space.  

Just letting it carry you.

Good.  And just letting that go, thanking your guide, being your experience, and letting yourself come back smoothly and easily, at your own pace but very smoothly, at your own pace and rhythm now coming back to the time and space of the earth plane.  

Good.  Coming back completely now.  

And with that, we bid you most pleasant journeys.  

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